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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: chris gadsden on May 06, 2015, 04:42:52 PM
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BREAKING NEWS: Aevitas Inc puts the breaks on the hazardous waste facility in Chilliwack by the Fraser River.
More details to follow.
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NOTIFICATION May 6, 2015
I regret to inform all interested parties that Aevitas Inc. is no longer pursuing the development and building of a state of the art special waste management facility in Chilliwack. Our intent was to build a recycling facility that could handle and manage drummed hazardous waste, transformer oil and fluorescent lamps from BC. Aevitas Inc. has been a leader throughout Canada in these specialized waste recycling niches for over twenty years. Unfortunately the multiple hurdles have accumulated to a never ending uphill battle. We would like to thank the City of Chilliwack for their support and understanding of the project and CHP Architects for delivering a top notch design.
Aevitas Inc. shares the concern of opposition groups to protect the Fraser River. It is unfortunate that efforts and funding can not be collaborated to develop world class facilities and processes as opposed to stopping them. In this day and age, we do have the means to manage these wastes in a safe and environmentally friendly manner. These wastes are present in everyone’s daily lives and without facilities such as the one we were proposing, improper disposal disburses them into the air, land and water.
Again we would like to thank everyone that provided support and positive feedback looking for a way to make the project work. You are the true environmental activists!
With great disappointment,
Byron Day
President
Aevitas Inc.
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http://www.theprogress.com/news/302850031.html
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I guess this was expected ... too much opposition from too many biggee's, and I'm sure many groups consider this a victory. And maybe it is - but I'm looking forward to seeing where a facility like this will actually be built.
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It needs to be built, but not next to a river.
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I guess this was expected ... too much opposition from too many biggee's, and I'm sure many groups consider this a victory. And maybe it is - but I'm looking forward to seeing where a facility like this will actually be built.
And you know what is next. ;D ;D ;D
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Not really surprised.....Yet another example of a company trying to do what environmentalists and the general public have been crying for (i.e. hazardous waste recycling) years only to be quashed by environmentalists. This decision does nothing to protect the Fraser River or adjacent tributaries that flow into it as these materials will continue to be dumped in landfills or dumped illegally off the side of a road. If it is not dealt with safely and properly then these materials will continue to make their way into the Fraser, so I sort of find it strange how opponents can actually call this a victory. The fact is that most of this hazardous material is not dealt with properly and is making it’s way into our air and water already. The environment lost today.
I find it humorous that there are critics that say that it was all about the location and not about what the company was trying to do. That's false because their statements in the press say otherwise. Although there were many critics that stated that the proximity of the facility to the Fraser was their sole criticism, there were those within the opposition ranks that went further and basically turned up the fear mongering in order to make the company not welcome to the Chilliwack area, period. These individuals were engaged in spreading fear about Aevitas trucks crashing on Hwy#1 with their contents making their way into the Fraser River, air quality, fire, and earthquakes. These particular critics forgot about the 2 major railways that carry hazardous materials already in close proximity to the Fraser River. I am surprised terrorism wasn’t mentioned. It appeared to be more about an exercise on brainstorming on how many things could go wrong with this facility based on perceptions rather than trying to find solutions. According to critics, there were many other locations for this facility, but to my knowledge only one organization actually went on record and endorsed another location. Critics of the facility apparently know what constitutes as a bad site, but in the same respect do not express any knowledge about what constitutes as a good site. In my opinion, it wasn’t about the location anymore – locals just didn’t want it. Unfortunately, opposition will follow this company if it chooses another location in this province. If another location is found then another reason or more will be brought up to kill the facility.
Similar to other initiatives intended to protect the environment that are killed by environmentalists, we will likely come full circle again where the same environmentalists will complain that government and industry are not doing enough to recycle hazardous waste. In the meantime, some vocal critics of this facility will continue with their hypocritical support of gravel removal further upstream which potentially threatens wild Salmon and Sturgeon – another loss for the environment….at the hands of “environmentalists”.
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Not really surprised.....Yet another example of a company trying to do what environmentalists and the general public have been crying for (i.e. hazardous waste recycling) years only to be quashed by environmentalists. This decision does nothing to protect the Fraser River or adjacent tributaries that flow into it as these materials will continue to be dumped in landfills or dumped illegally off the side of a road. If it is not dealt with safely and properly then these materials will continue to make their way into the Fraser, so I sort of find it strange how opponents can actually call this a victory. The fact is that most of this hazardous material is not dealt with properly and is making it’s way into our air and water already. The environment lost today.
I find it humorous that there are critics that say that it was all about the location and not about what the company was trying to do. That's false because their statements in the press say otherwise. Although there were many critics that stated that the proximity of the facility to the Fraser was their sole criticism, there were those within the opposition ranks that went further and basically turned up the fear mongering in order to make the company not welcome to the Chilliwack area, period. These individuals were engaged in spreading fear about Aevitas trucks crashing on Hwy#1 with their contents making their way into the Fraser River, air quality, fire, and earthquakes. These particular critics forgot about the 2 major railways that carry hazardous materials already in close proximity to the Fraser River. I am surprised terrorism wasn’t mentioned. It appeared to be more about an exercise on brainstorming on how many things could go wrong with this facility based on perceptions rather than trying to find solutions. According to critics, there were many other locations for this facility, but to my knowledge only one organization actually went on record and endorsed another location. Critics of the facility apparently know what constitutes as a bad site, but in the same respect do not express any knowledge about what constitutes as a good site. In my opinion, it wasn’t about the location anymore – locals just didn’t want it. Unfortunately, opposition will follow this company if it chooses another location in this province. If another location is found then another reason or more will be brought up to kill the facility.
Similar to other initiatives intended to protect the environment that are killed by environmentalists, we will likely come full circle again where the same environmentalists will complain that government and industry are not doing enough to recycle hazardous waste. In the meantime, some vocal critics of this facility will continue with their hypocritical support of gravel removal further upstream which potentially threatens wild Salmon and Sturgeon – another loss for the environment….at the hands of “environmentalists”.
Bring on the FF next, hope to see you on the Wild Salmon Caravan this coming week. ;D ;D ;D
PS I imagine you were pleased Bill C- 51 passed yesterday that will deal with us terrorists. :-\
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No Aevitas site here now.
https://youtu.be/-1sPGYMqX2w
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Well, you could take them to the Cheam Band's dump, or perhaps to Seabird Island ;)
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Well, you could take them to the Cheam Band's dump, or perhaps to Seabird Island ;)
I will let you tackle the first one, let us know how it goes.
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http://www.theprogress.com/news/302850031.html
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http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/news/302946591.html
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http://www.chilliwack.com/main/page.cfm?id=2374
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Gobal TV coverage from today.
http://globalnews.ca/video/1987009/chilliwack-hazardous-waste-plant-plans-scrapped
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My coverage of the proceedings yesterday.
https://youtu.be/4FCzSB7lyyw
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Bring on the FF next, hope to see you on the Wild Salmon Caravan this coming week. ;D ;D ;D
PS I imagine you were pleased Bill C- 51 passed yesterday that will deal with us terrorists. :-\
Never said that I supported Bill C-51 and never called or implied that opponents to the facility were terrorists. Not sure what this has to do with this issue. Nice deflection from the gravel removal once again.
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My coverage of the proceedings yesterday.
https://youtu.be/4FCzSB7lyyw
Interesting to see Wayne Froese laughing about the prospect of CFL bulbs being in his basement. Apparently, they are dangerous to be recycled safely and properly at the proposed location, but not a big issue for him in his possession or in garbage dumps adjacent to the river. The Watershed Watch Salmon Society spokesperson (Lina Azeez?) is sure clueless about how well CFLs get recycled these days and where they are ultimately recycled. Places like Home Depot accept used CFL bulbs, but they don't recycle them. Home Depot has to take them somewhere like Aevitas to be recycled.
But more importantly, there is a real problem with these CFL bulbs making their way into landfills or just dumped illegally off the side of the road. Maybe Azeez and Froese should take trip at look through those dumps near the Fraser (operated by FN who stood beside them opposing the facility.....the same ones supporting gravel removal on the Fraser) and see how many CFL bulbs are there. They would likely be surprised, but of course unphased because in their "minds" they did a great service for the Fraser River and the environment. As for saying they wanted to work with Aevitas to find other solutions I don't believe that. When did they try to meet with the company? Only one group actually came up with an alternative location (which may or may not have been that suitable). Mark Angelo kept talking about all these suitable sites but never came out on record supporting any.
I liked the first bunch of questions asked by those reporters. Glad you included those, Chris. It was also great to get the Stolo in there during the CBC interview. Azeez is taking about saving salmon and applauding the decision by Aevitas while the Stolo supports destructive gravel removal in the HEART OF THE FRASER RIVER. Hypocrites.
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Not all Stolo support the gravel extraction just like not all people support FF. There always difference of opinions on many issues, just ask me, as coming up to 50 years of marriage. ;D ;D ;D
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Not all Stolo support the gravel extraction just like not all people support FF. There always difference of opinions on many issues, just ask me, as coming up to 50 years of marriage. ;D ;D ;D
I guess it sort of like not all First Nations think fish farms are a bad idea or those that love wild salmon don't agree with Morton's theories??
Strange how those Stolo that don't support gravel removal are not being heard as loudly as some of the others like Erie Crey. Guess they have been told to toe the line for fears of being called poor "environmentalists".
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http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1514507/waste-management-companies-to-pay-87-000-for-pcb-spill
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http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1514507/waste-management-companies-to-pay-87-000-for-pcb-spill
At the time of the incident, Custom Environmental Services Ltd. was a separate corporate entity, transporting a shipment on behalf of Aevitas Inc. The company has since been acquired by Aevitas Inc.
How else is are these materials supposed to transported to a hazardous waste recycling facility? Hazardous materials move back and forth along our highways or along railways everyday - many with a much more immediate impact that can put many people's lives in danger.
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At the time of the incident, Custom Environmental Services Ltd. was a separate corporate entity, transporting a shipment on behalf of Aevitas Inc. The company has since been acquired by Aevitas Inc.
How else is are these materials supposed to transported to a hazardous waste recycling facility? Hazardous materials move back and forth along our highways or along railways everyday - many with a much more immediate impact that can put many people's lives in danger.
I knew you would justify this somehow. ;D ;D ;D Does not matter as I am sure a responsible company like this can find another location as this is not the only site in BC to locate.
So good to see we finally won one, bring on FF next, off to the Leg. in Victoria this week to deal with this issue.
Also may need to meet with our relative Rachel Notley in Alberta re some other issues that could effect BC. ;D ;D
Sure fun being a environmentalist these days. ;D ;D ;D
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Wow, a few weeks ago you were going to be a movie star and now we read you might meet with the newly elected Alberta Premier; you’re definitely going to need a larger toque ;D ;D ;D. Have a safe trip to Victoria (another protest?) and let us know how your meeting with Ms. Notley goes…
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Wow, a few weeks ago you were going to be a movie star and now we read you might meet with the newly elected Alberta Premier; you’re definitely going to need a larger toque ;D ;D ;D. Have a safe trip to Victoria (another protest?) and let us know how your meeting with Ms. Notley goes…
Just doing the work what a unpaid volunteer does in what one believes in at, 72 one does not have much time to try and make the world a better place for our children and grandchildren. Also it is nice not to be employed by any government agency and have to keep defending them or being gaged. ;D ;D ;D
It has been a good week and with the best coach in hockey now in TO makes it better. ;D ;D ;D
The Victoria meeting is with some politians as Eddie and Alex and a few other groups have come together and are taking the lead.
I guess I should give you an autograph after reading your comments, I thought I was just famous on FWR, maybe I can hire you as my press agent too. ;D ;D ;D
The meeting with Rachel will most likely have to wait until we have our Notley reunion once again, besides she is very busy getting Alberta back on its feet.
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I knew you would justify this somehow. ;D ;D ;D Does not matter as I am sure a responsible company like this can find another location as this is not the only site in BC to locate.
So good to see we finally won one, bring on FF next, off to the Leg. in Victoria this week to deal with this issue.
Also may need to meet with our relative Rachel Notley in Alberta re some other issues that could effect BC. ;D ;D
Sure fun being a environmentalist these days. ;D ;D ;D
Not justifying anything. Just saying that at the end of the day these materials have to move from one location to another. There are trains and trucks constantly hauling hazardous materials on our roadways. Also, it wasn’t Aevites that was directly transporting the materials according to the article.
100 litres of oil containing PCBs at a weigh scale? Hmmm…I wonder how many litres of PCB-laden oil these hazardous waste recycling facilities remove from our waterways each year?
Yes, “environmentalists” certainly won one. They prevented the construction of a facility that recycles hazardous waste. A mighty big accomplishment. Meanwhile, these materials continue to be disposed of in landfills (not far from the proposed location) or illegally off the side of the road – eventually making their way into Fraser River. Score one for perception. As for locating at another site in BC, your compatriots have been actively involved in making the public fearful of even transporting hazardous material to facilities like this. What started out being about the “location of the facility” ended up being about “idea of the actual facility.”
Oh, and we shouldn’t forget the fact that some of those same opponents support gravel extraction in the Fraser River not much further upstream. However, it is best not to rock the boat too much there as political support from certain high profile groups was likely deemed more important than a few hundred red-listed sturgeon and some wild salmon. But hey, the ends justify the means sometimes, right? As you said, “not all Stolo support the gravel extraction just like not all people support FF.” I don’t think Eddie (self-proclaimed warrior of wild salmon) was beating any drums at Seabird Island. :P
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The Victoria meeting is with some politians as Eddie and Alex and a few other groups have come together and are taking the lead.
I guess when you can have individuals taking the lead that are highly experienced in misdirection; cherry picking data to remove the larger context of what the scientific literature supports or does not support; or false information then it makes the agenda much more manageable and articulates the message better. Not much different than what they do in North Korea. Good call.
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I guess when you can have individuals taking the lead that are highly experienced in misdirection; cherry picking data to remove the larger context of what the scientific literature supports or does not support; or false information then it makes the agenda much more manageable and articulates the message better. Not much different than what they do in North Korea. Good call.
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SS it may be time for you to start a group to oppose these things you are concerned about, I am sure your knowledge and education you have would be excellent to these topics that cause you great distress at times or does your employment prevent you from doing so? :(
Remember I am just an undereducated old guy and running out of energy, we need young guys like you, Dave and maybe Bob to get away from the computer screen. Saying that Dave does a lot of work for the CVRCS and is a much valued director. Got to go to get ready to go to Victoria and a Fraser Valley Ilegal Dumping Alliance meeting this afternoon.
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Chris, you might be the most politically minded person I know and this is the sort of stuff that keeps you going. I hope I have your energy when I reach 72 but having said that, if you post crap expect to hear about it ;)
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Chris, you might be the most politically minded person I know and this is the sort of stuff that keeps you going. I hope I have your energy when I reach 72 but having said that, if you post crap expect to hear about it ;)
Love to do that to get a response from you and SS, sorry Bob has given up, hope his health is OK, eating too much................................ We had a celebration party tonight. ;D ;D ;D Off to Victoria in a few hours.
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http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/news/305245821.html
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Love to do that to get a response from you and SS, sorry Bob has given up, hope his health is OK, eating too much................................ We had a celebration party tonight. ;D ;D ;D Off to Victoria in a few hours.
It would be a great help if you could point me in the right direction to an institution that I can get an environmentalist degree from Chris. :)
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http://www.royalroads.ca/prospective-students/master-science-environment-and-management?gclid=CJaY8K6m8cUCFc9gfgodajIARA
Be interesting to see what you would learn there about fish farms.