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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: MetalAndFeathers on December 28, 2014, 12:31:14 PM
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Where and how much will it cost to replace some bearings on a okuma raw II to abec 7`s prefferably German made.
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Why do you need to do it ?
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Because mine dosent spin very well?
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German bearings for a reel that was made where? Like putting a 150hp motor on a 12ft punt!
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have u tried mikes reel repair ? maybe phone them to ask really friendly staff
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Sell it and buy an Islander. :)
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Abec 7 bearings for an Abu 6500 are about $20 for the set of two.
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Where and how much will it cost to replace some bearings on a okuma raw II to abec 7`s prefferably German made.
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Check this out :
http://www.bocabearings.com/
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them boca bearngs are decent put some in one of my pins if you get the ceramics run em dry.
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Because mine dosent spin very well?
I have exact the same reel and this is what i've done:
1.Take it apart and clean factory grease as much as you can (remember to remove any fibers from cleaning material if left on bearings)
2.Apply a couple drops of light reel oi ( I used Hot Sauce)
After this operation spinning time of my reel increased from 3 min to 5-6 min.
The only thing aside from fit I could complain about this reel is a weak clicker.
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Sell it and buy an Islander. :)
I can imagine one of the reasons he bought okuma instead of islander is the cost.
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You get what you pay for!
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You get what you pay for!
Exactly my point, better to buy a quality reel because by the time you have made all the upgrades to a cheaper reel, you will wish you had just bought a better reel in first place. I learned the hard way.
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The only reason why asked this is because i recently bought one of a friend for extremely cheap but had a slow startup spin for a reason i couldnt answer.I dont c-pin alot because i mainly fish spey.I didnt want to get another reel so i read about replacing the bearings.
Hope i cleared it up for some.
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As others have said I'd take the bearings out and soak them in some lighter fluid. They're probably just over greased if your concern is slow startup, or the spindle could be bent but you would notice that right away.
People are so concerned with how many minutes their reel spins. As long as it pays out line without affecting your drift, that's all that matters in my mind.
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- centerpinangling ontario has service packages or you can get them to do the replacement.
--for the snobs out there Okuma uses german made bearings on some models thus likely why the request for german replacement.
--many fine reels have Japanese ceramic or stainless bearings in them... some say the best in the world.
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Hey Humpy I don't want to start argument ,but tell me what is so much better other than fit in the Islander than in the Raw II.
CP needs to have fast start-up (that depends on spool weight) and feed easily line (that depends on how bearings,in this case, are greased) and be light (Okuma is slightly lighter at 8.23 oz vs Islander 8.5 oz)
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Some elitism in this thread. Okuma's work just fine out of the box and if the OP's reel is not spinning well it's not because it's poor quality but likely needs a little TLC.
The only reason why asked this is because i recently bought one of a friend for extremely cheap but had a slow startup spin for a reason i couldnt answer.I dont c-pin alot because i mainly fish spey.I didnt want to get another reel so i read about replacing the bearings.
As others have suggested try giving it a good cleaning first. Go easy on the lubricant, less is more.
Are you sure its a bearing problem? Is there any wobble or anything to suggest the spindle or frame is off kilter?
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Are you sure its a bearing problem? Is there any wobble or anything to suggest the spindle or frame is off kilter?
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I thought at first it was a bearing problem but after reading the posts by other members it sounds like it needs cleaning instead.
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Some elitism in this thread.
Nope, not at all! Just Canadianism!
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try cleaning it and applying sewing machine oil or try centerpinanglingdotcom they sell and service all kinds of float reels. They also have abec 7 upgrade bearings.
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Hey Humpy I don't want to start argument ,but tell me what is so much better other than fit in the Islander than in the Raw II.
CP needs to have fast start-up (that depends on spool weight) and feed easily line (that depends on how bearings,in this case, are greased) and be light (Okuma is slightly lighter at 8.23 oz vs Islander 8.5 oz)
Fit, feel, performance, etc.
Its really personal preference but IMO the islander is a better bang for your buck reel compared to other cheaper alternatives. To each their own.
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I can almost guarantee there's nothing wrong with your reel and do not require replacing the bearings. Vast majority of bearings come from manufactures packed with grease. This has something to do with the possibility of the bearings sitting in storage or no being sold for a while. Grease will not dry out or seep out of the bearings over time in storage. Simply clean the bearings out with lighter fluid like others have said and then oil them with hot sauce or any other light reel/sewing machine oil. Bearings are meant to be oiled when in service, not greased. Your reel will most likely be noticeably louder once properly oiled. There is nothing wrong with them.
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Great thread - I am looking to get into centrepinning and have been struggling with the costs of the "must have" items such as an Islander. I think that I will be picking up an Okuma in the states for about a third of the price of an islander. From their reviews on many other sites and comments I have read they sometimes need a bit of TLC out of the box, but are more than good enough to get the job done.
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Great thread - I am looking to get into centrepinning and have been struggling with the costs of the "must have" items such as an Islander. I think that I will be picking up an Okuma in the states for about a third of the price of an islander. From their reviews on many other sites and comments I have read they sometimes need a bit of TLC out of the box, but are more than good enough to get the job done.
The islander is a "must have" for some people, because it's made in BC. The same reason Milners and Campbells (less) are as well. It's Canadiana. You either get it or you dont.
Yes money is a huge factor to some, this can be an expensive sport. My old Islander has been to hell and back a few times, and it still works the way it did when it was new. I just call all the dings on the rim "extra grip" when it's raining.
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After 28 years my Islander was running funny.First I thought the guides in my 3113 Sage were worn switched to another rod.Same problem.Sounded like a poorly tuned violin type vibration.Cleaning failed to address the issue.New bearings from Boca were inexpensive.Great service and a snap,literally to change.Runs like a young colt now.
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The islander is a "must have" for some people, because it's made in BC. The same reason Milners and Campbells (less) are as well. It's Canadiana. You either get it or you dont.
Yes money is a huge factor to some, this can be an expensive sport. My old Islander has been to hell and back a few times, and it still works the way it did when it was new. I just call all the dings on the rim "extra grip" when it's raining.
See, the problem is if I know it is something I will do many years and be able to get out many times per year, absolutely agree and buying something that will last is actually an economical decision as opposed to replacing an inferior model multiple times. However, factoring in that I have no idea if I will like pinning and I have young kids and negotiating days away fishing isn't always easy, makes making these decisions harder and sometimes you have to err on the side of caution.
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A little research on Okuma shows it uses German bearings.
Seriously I have hard time understanding how Islander can outlast Okuma if later is taken care of. There is nothing that can be more damaged in Okuma than in Islander.
I have this model and the only thing that pisses me of is its weak clicker, fit is less irritating.
To author of opening post, there is British cp that has very light spool thus providing easy start-up ,but I can't recall its name. It is moderately priced.
About spinning time being of no importance, I fail to comprehend that as increased spinning time on the reel clearly indicates less friction during spool rotation thus making easy to make float go down the river more natural.
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Well like I said, you either get it or you don't.
I'm sure theres nothing wrong with the okuma, I've never used one.
I never said spinning time is of no importance. Re read my original post.
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A little research on Okuma shows it uses German bearings.
Seriously I have hard time understanding how Islander can outlast Okuma if later is taken care of. There is nothing that can be more damaged in Okuma than in Islander.
I have this model and the only thing that pisses me of is its weak clicker, fit is less irritating.
To author of opening post, there is British cp that has very light spool thus providing easy start-up ,but I can't recall its name. It is moderately priced.
About spinning time being of no importance, I fail to comprehend that as increased spinning time on the reel clearly indicates less friction during spool rotation thus making easy to make float go down the river more natural.
The British CP is the Cyprinus. It is a well made reel and functions great, not as good as the islander but you get what you pay for. Reason I sold mine is because I don't like a caged reel.
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He may also be referring to JW young reels from the UK? Very light reels with great start up.