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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: alwaysfishn on January 12, 2012, 08:36:09 PM
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http://www.salmonaresacred.org/blog/groundtruthing-salmon-dying-spawning (http://www.salmonaresacred.org/blog/groundtruthing-salmon-dying-spawning)
Below are some excerpts from the above link.....
"Recently I bought some "fresh" Atlantic Farmed Salmon from Superstore.
(http://www.salmonaresacred.org/sites/default/files/images/IMG_8653.jpg)
Although the fish had an expiry date 5 days from my purchase their gills were rotting so bad. When I saw these gills I immediately thought of the fish I had seen in the river especially in the pattern. I wondered if these fish weren't harvested because they were experiencing disease.
Below are pictures of FARMED FEEDLOT ATLANTIC SALMON
(http://www.salmonaresacred.org/sites/default/files/images/IMG_8775.jpg)
I got 13 fish in the 2 to 4 lb range and all had rotting gills . They also had a very different brain then anything I had seen, a spongy growth had grown around them that had to be removed before the brain could be exposed.
(http://www.salmonaresacred.org/sites/default/files/images/IMG_8782.jpg)
In addition this one had a bright yellow spot on its brain as well.
(http://www.salmonaresacred.org/sites/default/files/images/IMG_8722%20-%20Version%202.jpg)
I could say more about this experience but just wanted to point out some things that I found concerning. Especially since we learned from Laura Richards (Head of DFO Pacific Region) that no specific person is tasked with reading the disease records from the salmon farm feedlots."
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It's strange, you don't know what it is, better blame the fish farm then find out what it is. Typical.
Was Morton really in Calgary on October 26, 2011.
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It's strange, you don't know what it is, better blame the fish farm then find out what it is. Typical.
They don't grow them in the wild...... :D
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Typical Morton...nuff said ;D
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Are they BC reared fish? Are they ocean reared fish? Which farm did they come from? Or did they come from the commodity brokers who source salmon from Chile? So many important, unanswered questions to accompany the unsubstantiated inferences that the fish were diseased and representative of the farmed product. Typical Morton.
I am surprised they still have their gills; conventional practice is to remove them because of blood decomposition and the direct connection to the circulatory system in the edible tissues. Price is also quite interesting, $1.99 per pound. That and the fact that they are 2 to 4 lb weight class suggests they come from one of the land based freshwater facilities, not conventional seapen farming.
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AF, please provide us with all the information on these fish so that we could at least have somewhere to start understanding the pictures. And also while it isn't really an issue could you confirm that Mrs Morton was in NE Calgary on Oct 26, 2011 as the label and her blog would suggest. Not for any reason more than I am very curious. Since she had those fish on Oct 26 2011 you would think that the results from the ISA tests she would have had done would be complete. Where are those? Or were the test not necessary because she already had her ducks all lined up already. Or the results didn't suit her position. Allot of questions. I'll bet we never get to know. Just another misinformation story to fill the gap until we get to see stanford go down. She's had this story since well into November why show us this now?
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AF, please provide us with all the information on these fish so that we could at least have somewhere to start understanding the pictures. And also while it isn't really an issue could you confirm that Mrs Morton was in NE Calgary on Oct 26, 2011 as the label and her blog would suggest. Not for any reason more than I am very curious. Since she had those fish on Oct 26 2011 you would think that the results from the ISA tests she would have had done would be complete. Where are those? Or were the test not necessary because she already had her ducks all lined up already. Or the results didn't suit her position. Allot of questions. I'll bet we never get to know. Just another misinformation story to fill the gap until we get to see stanford go down. She's had this story since well into November why show us this now?
The address on the salmon label is the western H.O. address of Superstore. All Superstore products in western Canada probably use the same label. The actual product (13 salmon) were bought in Campbell river. I'm quite certain they are BC farmed fish as that is the whole point of her research. I have no information on whether she had them tested for ISA, and if she did, what the results were.
I've made no inferences as to the linkage of the salmon to the whole ISA thing as that topic is in another thread. Probably the take away for the OP is make sure you know what you are buying. Although the expiry date of that product was 5 days from the date that the product was purchased, the fish were not only well into a state of decomposition, but there was obviously other health issues with those fish that may been the reason that they were harvested and sent to market early. Hoping there would be better health inspection at source or on the store shelf is probably wishful thinking.
The article has been on the link provided since October 15th 2012.
I am surprised they still have their gills; conventional practice is to remove them because of blood decomposition and the direct connection to the circulatory system in the edible tissues. Price is also quite interesting, $1.99 per pound. That and the fact that they are 2 to 4 lb weight class suggests they come from one of the land based freshwater facilities, not conventional seapen farming.
I wasn't aware that Mainstream raised Atlantic salmon in land based farms in BC.... please provide a link. It's highly unlikely that Superstore would be importing Atlantic salmon when they have a distribution agreement with Mainstream and the farms are just outside of Campbell River. Perhaps the fish farm recognized that these fish were diseased and harvested them early. That could explain both the price and the small size.
Consumers in the Campbell river area should be thankful that Morton came along and bought them. ::)
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Does Mainstream have an exclusive agreement with Superstore or even any kind of an agreement?
How can you tell those salmon are from Mainstream?
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Although the expiry date of that product was 5 days from the date that the product was purchased, the fish were not only well into a state of decomposition
Portions of those gills are not looking right I would say. Yes they may be "off" but to say that they are rotten because they are farm fish is not complete.
Its posts like these that allow anyone with "A simple rudimentary understanding of biology" to see how the anti salmon farming movement here in BC operates....embarrassing.
Reminds me of the sea lice photos that are slathered everywhere.
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This whole story is sounding bogus to me. I cannot imagine any Superstore selling fish of this poor quality and as absolon notes, when was the last time you saw gills in a store bought salmon?
And really, why would anyone buy 13 rotting salmon when one would serve the photographic needs?
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Portions of those gills are not looking right I would say. Yes they may be "off" but to say that they are rotten because they are farm fish is not complete.
Its posts like these that allow anyone with "A simple rudimentary understanding of biology" to see how the anti salmon farming movement here in BC operates....embarrassing.
Reminds me of the sea lice photos that are slathered everywhere.
I know the fish farm industry would prefer that these dirty little secrets remained secret as they tend to be bad for business.
I just posted what I read on the internet. It's up to everyone to make their own judgements based on the information provided...
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This whole story is sounding bogus to me. I cannot imagine any Superstore selling fish of this poor quality and as absolon notes, when was the last time you saw gills in a store bought salmon?
And really, why would anyone buy 13 rotting salmon when one would serve the photographic needs?
That is certainly one way of explaining it away. ??? ::)
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Typical of you to draw the whole industry in on a picture of one fishes gills.
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I just posted what I read on the internet. It's up to everyone to make their own judgements based on the information provided...
Of course, everyone knows that if you read it on the internet it must be true.
Morton would make a much better case if she took these fish and had histological sections taken from the brain, analyzed by a competent lab and from that testing, identify that there was a specific problem. It would also improve her case if she identified the source of these fish and was able to explain why they were sold gills-on and why the gills were so deteriorated. The absence of any confirmation of her inferences really reduces the whole story to another case of a small boy crying wolf once again. As in that fable, the more times one cries wolf, the less likely it is to be believed.
Your conclusion that these are diseased fish originating from Mainstream pens is based entirely on unconfirmed logical premises, another example of that problem with logical argument that we have discussed previously. Your willingness to post it anyway speaks volumes about the reliability of any information you provide.
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Before you point fingers at the supplier, a lot can happen to meat and produce in transport, storage and handling in big box stores. Had a "fresh" turkey from Superstore last Thanksgiving I bought and opened the day before to brine....when I bagged it and took it back to the store, I warned the manager not to open it in the store...he took it out back and came back and thanked me for the warning. Add that to the bad chicken thighs and fishy "fresh halibut from Save On...... >:(
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Does Mainstream have an exclusive agreement with Superstore or even any kind of an agreement?
How can you tell those salmon are from Mainstream?
I guess if CFIA is, was or were doing it's job it will investigate, if allowed that is: Just as if this were to be another type of livestock, I think.
Is some of the posters' calling Ms. Morton a Liar? The pendulum swings both ways as many question, or should do if open minded about the facts, on both sides of the argument. The same applies to litigation.
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Before you point fingers at the supplier, a lot can happen to meat and produce in transport, storage and handling in big box stores. Had a "fresh" turkey from Superstore last Thanksgiving I bought and opened the day before to brine....when I bagged it and took it back to the store, I warned the manager not to open it in the store...he took it out back and came back and thanked me for the warning. Add that to the bad chicken thighs and fishy "fresh halibut from Save On...... Angry
I usually buy large factory farm eggs until one day I thought I should buy free range organic eggs. This lasted about about 3 purchases till I gave up. Every dozen varied in freshness from each end of the scale. In one carton there would be fresh eggs with a firm yolk to eggs with runny yolks and a couple just rotten eggs. Before this I had never seen a rotten egg. I am back on the factory produced eggs again. To bad I really appreciate those darker orange yolks.
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Sandy, it's only Morton who is saying there is something wrong with those fish. Presumably none of the people who purchased those fish found anything wrong or were made ill by them; a complaint from them would justify and spark an investigation. Morton is merely expressing a completely unsubstantiated opinion when she claims there is something wrong. Of course she is doing it her usual righteously incensed and bombastic fashion, but that doesn't make her any more accurate.
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Sandy, it's only Morton who is saying there is something wrong with those fish. Presumably none of the people who purchased those fish found anything wrong or were made ill by them; a complaint from them would justify and spark an investigation. Morton is merely expressing a completely unsubstantiated opinion when she claims there is something wrong. Of course she is doing it her usual righteously incensed and bombastic fashion, but that doesn't make her any more accurate.
Your comments are scary.... As a fish farmer, is that the standard you find acceptable in the fish you produce? Do you measure the quality of your fish by the number of people that get ill from them? Would you actually eat one of those fish yourself??
Is the public that unaware of what they should be looking for in a fresh fish?
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Make sure that you look at the link provided in the first post.
This is definitely not a healthy fish:
(http://www.salmonaresacred.org/sites/default/files/images/medsizeprespawnoct437.jpg)
The thing about farmed salmon is we have a choice - wild fish vs farmed fish.
We don't have the same choice with chicken or beef (except that we can choose to buy a healthier version that is organic).
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Is some of the posters' calling Ms. Morton a Liar?
Sandy, not sure if you're referring to me but if so I stand by what I posted. This has nothing to do with farmed fish; IMO this story is fabricated because fish of that quality would not be for sale in any competitive grocery store and most certainly not in a big name chain store in a salmon savvy town like Campbell River. I live in Chilliwack, occasionally buy farmed Atlantic's and as I have a particular interest in salmon farming I watch the local seafood departments of big name grocery stores; at all times all fish products, both wild and farmed, were in perfect condition for sale. If that particular fish shown in the link was put on the shelf of any store in Chilliwack the manager would be fired and heads would roll in upper management.
Again, who has seen fresh salmon sold in superstores with gills still attached?
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Sandy, not sure if you're referring to me but if so I stand by what I posted. This has nothing to do with farmed fish; IMO this story is fabricated because fish of that quality would not be for sale in any competitive grocery store and most certainly not in a big name chain store in a salmon savvy town like Campbell River. I live in Chilliwack, occasionally buy farmed Atlantic's and as I have a particular interest in salmon farming I watch the local seafood departments of big name grocery stores; at all times all fish products, both wild and farmed, were in perfect condition for sale. If that particular fish shown in the link was put on the shelf of any store in Chilliwack the manager would be fired and heads would roll in upper management.
Again, who has seen fresh salmon sold in superstores with gills still attached?
Where else would Morton get Atlantic salmon? She may have caught escaped salmon, but if that was the case I'm sure she would have mentioned it. The fact is she bought 13 of them at the Superstore in Campbell river. The label supports that.
I agree the manager should be fired for putting an inferior product like that on the shelf! But I'm more concerned about which fish farm is selling these things to the store. Of course if they use the same standards as Absolon appears to accept, then maybe this is what they think the product should look like....
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Maybe the fish farm had an outbreak of jelly fish and when they realized that they decided to cut their losses and send them to market....
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21490977 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21490977)
"Gill damage to Atlantic salmon (Salmo salar) caused by the common jellyfish (Aurelia aurita)
Over recent decades jellyfish have caused fish kill events and recurrent gill problems in marine-farmed salmonids. Common jellyfish (Aurelia spp.) are among the most cosmopolitan jellyfish species in the oceans, with populations increasing in many coastal areas. The negative interaction between jellyfish and fish in aquaculture remains a poorly studied area of science."
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Dave, comment was not directed at you in particular.
I do not always agree with the style of reporting that Ms.Morton and crew often seem to use; I do however admire anyone who is passionate enough to at least make an attempt at keeping us informed, wether we like her style or not: that is if I consider the motives to be true.
Dave I can see the skepticism as to that product being sold in the condition as reported, but given proof positive also may swing either way and with no proof other than the packaging label of where and when bought? and no evidence presented? The only conclusion would have to be based on a hunch.
as for the sale of tainted foods.
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/fispoi/man/samnem/chap3su3e.shtml
I am concerned that given Harper's latest decrees issued, we are going to see many important issues tied up with litigation especially those that are designed to mute the protesters, whistle-blowers on those that we have not yet found out about; afterall we have just heard the Mode of operation of the CFIA or DFO, Too trust or not??
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Unless you read the transcripts of the hearing, you didn't hear about the modus operandi of the CFIA and the DFO. What you heard was the reporting of the lawyer for the reactionary coalition browbeating witnesses in an attempt to imply wrongdoing and a conspiracy and the reactionary blogoshere declaring that to be proof of said accusations.
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as for the sale of tainted foods.
http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/fssa/fispoi/man/samnem/chap3su3e.shtml
After reading the info in that link (CFIA website) I now understand why Absolon wrote: "Presumably none of the people who purchased those fish found anything wrong or were made ill by them; a complaint from them would justify and spark an investigation."
Even if someone would have complained; because the decomposed gills likely make up less than 10% of the fish weight, the fish is fine according to CFIA. The fish farms are likely aware of these decomposition rules as well.....
"This general standard for packaged fresh and frozen finfish derives its authority from the Fish Inspection Regulations. It defines minimum acceptability of fresh and frozen fish for taint, decomposition, unwholesomeness and other requirements.....
6.2 Decomposition
A unit will be considered decomposed when more than 10% of the declared weight is affected by any of the following conditions:
a) Odour or flavour
Persistent, distinct and uncharacteristic odour or flavour including but not limited to the following:
ammonia, bilge, faecal, fruity, hydrogen sulphide, musty, putrid, saltfish-like, sour, sour milk-like, vegetable, and yeasty.
b) Discolouration
Fish showing abnormal discolouration of the flesh, such as green or black as associated with decomposition.
c) Texture
Textural breakdown of the flesh associated with decomposition which is characterized by muscle structure which is very tough or dry, or muscle structure which is mushy, or in the case of whole or dressed fish, perforated bellies or broken bellies or belly walls, caused by enzymatic action.
6.3 A sample unit shall be classified as defective when more than 10% of the declared weight of the sample unit is affected by any combination of tainted or decomposed conditions."
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Even if someone would have complained; because the decomposed gills likely make up less than 10% of the fish weight, the fish is fine according to CFIA. The fish farms are likely aware of these decomposition rules as well.....
Get real man. Food safety is treated very seriously by everybody.
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Your comments are scary.... As a fish farmer, is that the standard you find acceptable in the fish you produce? Do you measure the quality of your fish by the number of people that get ill from them? Would you actually eat one of those fish yourself??
Is the public that unaware of what they should be looking for in a fresh fish?
My comments to Sandy have nothing to do with what I find as acceptable quality or how I measure it. They had everything to do with whether the CFIA even had awareness of Morton's claims let alone reason to investigate as Sandy suggested they should have.
If those fish were actually for sale as Morton claims and were actually purchased by customers who ate them and subsequently became ill, the CFIA would investigate. If Alexandra Morton posts pictures of just the head of 1 of 13 fish she says were purchased and claims without any substantiating proof that those fish were diseased but there are no reports of people becoming ill from eating spoiled salmon and no complaints about the store selling them, the CFIA hasn't any reason to be involved. They are an agency with a mandate that doesn't involve accommodating Morton's desire for more fear-mongering press coverage. Presumably Morton herself didn't even file a complaint, and since she was the only one who can document the claim, the obvious question would be why not?
It does seem to be just a few of you claiming the fish are of very poor quality and I'm wondering how you can tell that from the photo provided. There is some gill damage on one but no other photos documenting the gills of the remaining 12 and no photos of the carcasses showing any morphological damage or deterioration. The damage in no way resembles the picture posted by easy water, not surprising since that particular fish was a post-spawn wild mort that Morton picked up in Harrison Mills as a quick trip to Morton's queendom will reveal. Given Morton's record of handling samples, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that she drove around in a warm car for a week with these in a shopping bag on the back seat before setting up her photo shoot with the inevitable consequence of deterioration of the gill tissue.
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If a 5 % portion or any portion of any meat product is off it will be very obvious by the odor. That is clearly covered in that link.
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Make sure that you look at the link provided in the first post.
This is definitely not a healthy fish:
(http://www.salmonaresacred.org/sites/default/files/images/medsizeprespawnoct437.jpg)
The thing about farmed salmon is we have a choice - wild fish vs farmed fish.
We don't have the same choice with chicken or beef (except that we can choose to buy a healthier version that is organic).
Uhhmmmm......dude, that's not a farm fish. It's a post spawn wild mort taken, according to Morton, from Harrison Mills. That growth on the gills is Saprolegnia, an endemic freshwater fungus that takes hold on dying fish. Salmon do that after they spawn and everyone of them gets attacked by Saprolegnia unless they get eaten by a bear first.
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Your comments are scary.... As a fish farmer, is that the standard you find acceptable in the fish you produce? Do you measure the quality of your fish by the number of people that get ill from them? Would you actually eat one of those fish yourself??
Is the public that unaware of what they should be looking for in a fresh fish?
Your comments are scary. You are passing along another unsubstantiated Morton opinion where we do not even know if these fish came from BC or not. Morton has no clue about fish pathology, but you trust her assessment of the brains of these fish. She figures she can dissect the heads of these fish and know what is going on or what is not normal and you buy into it. I agree that the fish gills do show that the fish may be “off”, but Morton implying that they are diseased is a bit of stretch. A person needs to do more follow-up work then just taking a photo and making an educated (or uneducated in Morton’s case) guess. I would trust guys like Dave that use to deal with sort of stuff and stop listening to pretend scientists like Morton. It is clear that Morton has given up on science to back up her arguments and has instead resorted to attacking the marketability of BC farmed salmon. This is an easier approach because it involves very little evidence, just a little use of perception and the use of colour photos of fish. This will likely be a much for successful approach because playing to people’s fears about what they eat is very easy nowadays.
Easywater…Where did that photo come from? Is it a farmed fish? What species of fish? Was it a male or a female? Was it a prespawn? Was it a recently recovered carcass or been dead for awhile. You just can’t show a picture like that without some background to attach to it for some context. For instance, for your information Pacific Salmon eventually die after spawning. The longer they are in freshwater (especially if the temperatures are warm) the greater the effects of pathogens on things like the gills. They are not maintaining their bodies like they were when they were in the ocean. Energy goes into migrating to the spawning grounds and spawning. Just because you have fungus on the gills does not necessarily mean that fish farms are to blame. Issue like prespawn mortality are alarming and should be taken seriously, but people need to stop necessarily blaming salmon farms for this. As we found in the Cohen Inquiry there is much more we need to know about this problem.
The fish in the picture looks a lot like the Sockeye from Harrison Mills that Morton has on YouTube (I agree with Absolon). You should understand that Harrison Sockeye have a protracted migration into freshwater where they stay in the Harrison Lake for a period of time before dropping back downstream, spawning in November and December. Secondly, you don’ t just simply pick up a salmon carcass and determine it has some sort of deadly disease by getting your 2 dollar dissection kit out and your Walmart cutting board. If this is a Morton sampled fish I would be sceptical of any results from it. Fortunately, there are dedicated, competent people from the DFO that sample spawning salmon on the spawning grounds. They actually know how to properly sample salmon carcasses and preserve tissue samples while “fly by your seat” Morton and her merry band of donkeys (i.e. Staniford) have no clue at all what they are doing.
As Bassonator says: Typical Morton….nuff said.
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That picture is of a Harrison Mills fish. Easywater lifted it directly from her blog; it is the tale of woe told immediately preceeding her recounting of this one. I suspect in his fervor to smear the farms, he didn't stop to read the caption.
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Your comments are scary. You are passing along another unsubstantiated Morton opinion where we do not even know if these fish came from BC or not. Morton has no clue about fish pathology, but you trust her assessment of the brains of these fish. She figures she can dissect the heads of these fish and know what is going on or what is not normal and you buy into it. I agree that the fish gills do show that the fish may be “off”, but Morton implying that they are diseased is a bit of stretch. A person needs to do more follow-up work then just taking a photo and making an educated (or uneducated in Morton’s case) guess. I would trust guys like Dave that use to deal with sort of stuff and stop listening to pretend scientists like Morton. It is clear that Morton has given up on science to back up her arguments and has instead resorted to attacking the marketability of BC farmed salmon. This is an easier approach because it involves very little evidence, just a little use of perception and the use of colour photos of fish. This will likely be a much for successful approach because playing to people’s fears about what they eat is very easy nowadays.
It doesn't take a scientist to draw the conclusion that those fish are BC grown fish. The salmon was purchased in Campbell river. Mainstream uses Superstore as one of it's distributors (check their website). Mainstream has fish feedlots near Campbell river.
Why would Superstore import a decomposing salmon from Chile or Norway or anywhere else when they can get them from a few miles away?
Unlike Absolon who is apparently in denial, we agree on one thing, and that's that the fish gills do show that the fish may be “off”. The other thing I'm sure we agree on is that fish is a "farmed fish". Even if it didn't come from a farm near Campbell river, it likely came from BC. Stores like Superstore are very careful in how they manage there costs, including their shipping costs!
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So Im still waiting, what were the results of the tests on those fish, could you provide a link? ....Didnt think so.
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So Im still waiting, what were the results of the tests on those fish, could you provide a link? ....Didnt think so.
Excuse me Bassonator, you must have missed the results in the blog. There was ewy spongy stuff on the brains, and the gills had a strange growth on them that had never been seen before. Ok. lol ;)
I have to correct myself on the expiry date. It reads 2011 OC 11. IF this is right and these fish were purchased as stated in mortons blog, the purchase date is Oct 06 which is precisely when she would have known about the fragmented ISA(like) virus results from up north on 2 out of 10 smolts. The day before the big press release. There is no doubt that she would have had these atlantics tested. Maybe and quite possibly the results came back negative. Which is likely why we are only seeing this version of demarketing.
There is a vial in plain view in one of the photo's.#73 This suggests samples were taken. Lots of questions.
Where is chris g. He must be resting up for the big day coming up. Watch for it. Evening of Jan 16. Its going to be a copy and paste-arama. Just speculating.
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My comments to Sandy have nothing to do with what I find as acceptable quality or how I measure it. They had everything to do with whether the CFIA even had awareness of Morton's claims let alone reason to investigate as Sandy suggested they should have.
If those fish were actually for sale as Morton claims and were actually purchased by customers who ate them and subsequently became ill, the CFIA would investigate. If Alexandra Morton posts pictures of just the head of 1 of 13 fish she says were purchased and claims without any substantiating proof that those fish were diseased but there are no reports of people becoming ill from eating spoiled salmon and no complaints about the store selling them, the CFIA hasn't any reason to be involved. They are an agency with a mandate that doesn't involve accommodating Morton's desire for more fear-mongering press coverage. Presumably Morton herself didn't even file a complaint, and since she was the only one who can document the claim, the obvious question would be why not?
It does seem to be just a few of you claiming the fish are of very poor quality and I'm wondering how you can tell that from the photo provided. There is some gill damage on one but no other photos documenting the gills of the remaining 12 and no photos of the carcasses showing any morphological damage or deterioration. The damage in no way resembles the picture posted by easy water, not surprising since that particular fish was a post-spawn wild mort that Morton picked up in Harrison Mills as a quick trip to Morton's queendom will reveal. Given Morton's record of handling samples, it wouldn't surprise me to hear that she drove around in a warm car for a week with these in a shopping bag on the back seat before setting up her photo shoot with the inevitable consequence of deterioration of the gill tissue.
my point re: tainted meat, is based on past experiences with government meat inspectors, or in particular a family member who was one for 30years. They were often called to investigate or document tainted meats that are found in the retail chains by local health authorities or had been reported as questionable, subsequent to the initial processing. Cut backs within the system has been one of the problems identified in that it is not as easy for inspectors to do spot checking.
I think most are missing that there two differant blogs sort of conjoined in that link. Bad writting ? I am just as guilty,! other reasons ? I am trying to keep my mind open.
I still say, closed containment and the open reporting of any medications or ingredients of farm fish should be the minimum. Let people be educated and make their own choices as to whether they wish to ingest said food : I also feel the same about GMO meats or other foods.
As for net pens; There is no reason that one industry or another should be given a free pass when it comes to pollution or potential cross contamination of food sources.
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That picture is of a Harrison Mills fish. Easywater lifted it directly from her blog; it is the tale of woe told immediately preceeding her recounting of this one. I suspect in his fervor to smear the farms, he didn't stop to read the caption.
Uhhmmmm......dude, that's not a farm fish. It's a post spawn wild mort taken, according to Morton, from Harrison Mills. That growth on the gills is Saprolegnia, an endemic freshwater fungus that takes hold on dying fish. Salmon do that after they spawn and everyone of them gets attacked by Saprolegnia unless they get eaten by a bear first.
Did you stop and read the caption??? Its said they found no dead post spawn fish that day, all the dead fish were still chome and full of eggs. Easy water never said " this is a farmed fish in the picture" he just stated that that fish doesnt look right. How many post spawn salmon have you seen as chrome as those fish are??? Please take a little more time and think about your posts before you go accuseing someone smearing fish farms. Your only making yourself look foolish. Attack the points stated not the person.
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How many post spawn salmon have you seen as chrome as those fish are???
Thousands. It is very common and mortalities are most likely caused by a parasite called Parvicapsula minibicornis. This parasite causes kidney failure and is most often seen in sockeye (and other salmonids) that enter fresh water earlier than normal and especially so when water temperatures are higher than normal.
Like the Harrison this year.
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Dave I'd like to know the recipe your using on those slightly rotton fish. ;D
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Chow%20Mama
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Did you stop and read the caption??? Its said they found no dead post spawn fish that day, all the dead fish were still chome and full of eggs. Easy water never said " this is a farmed fish in the picture" he just stated that that fish doesnt look right. How many post spawn salmon have you seen as chrome as those fish are??? Please take a little more time and think about your posts before you go accuseing someone smearing fish farms. Your only making yourself look foolish. Attack the points stated not the person.
The more relevant question is what has that picture got to do with a thread about farmed Atlantic salmon purchased from Save-On in Campbell River?