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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: t-bone on November 09, 2010, 07:10:27 AM

Title: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: t-bone on November 09, 2010, 07:10:27 AM
i was fishing the ranger run last week and a guy came flying past me, stopped and said he had to rush down and get a tow truck and police because 15 guys were stranded due to all 4 tires slashed. Anyone elsse hear anything about the upper chilliwack area?
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: HOOK on November 09, 2010, 07:58:50 AM
sounds like vigilante justice for those who decide to poach.......um i mean fish in the Closed limit hole  ;) Sounds like someone has had enough of this.


I have heard of similar tactics done on the Thompson by guys usually towards guys that are tossing guts for steelies (fly guys get worked up about this)
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: t-bone on November 09, 2010, 08:02:09 AM
i can't see a fisherman doing this to other fisherman. there is lots of space there so crowding isnt really an issue. I was thinking more of environmentalists or others who think kunting and fishing is wrong.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: HOOK on November 09, 2010, 08:08:36 AM
a fisherman sure as hell would do this to people that are illegally fishing a closed section of river. I already called in a ton of guys in the summer time. Still have the pics of them and their plate #'s on my phone  ;) even spoke directly with a CO later in the day because i had the people at the hatchery call it in cause there is no cell signal up there.

I have thought about doing something like this but i would never slash tires, letting the air out of them on the other hand is just as effective OR removing the air valve stem LOL


I dont understand these behaviours from people that know full well that the area is closed  >:( >:( >:(

If this was done at another location then i would assume whoever did it was in a very bad mood, obviously from confrontations or something
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: t-bone on November 09, 2010, 08:58:03 AM
There is absolutely no excuse, reason or rationale to cause damage to others property. Yes, the limit hole is closed and as far as i know, it's one of the only spots DFO regularly looks at for illegals. If your fishing it, you should be fined by authorities.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: HOOK on November 09, 2010, 09:56:25 AM
which is why i wouldnt slash because thats VERY expensive but deflating them is more like a prank or lesson teaching  ;) these people know full well they cant fish there and continue to do so anyways. I think the fines should be a higher cost and their gear taken EACH TIME and for every person. DFO/CO 's have the authority to take your vehicle if they want, maybe they need to start that as well now because they normally wont(seen it happen once though)

I have been lucky so far with not being broken into out there however my dads car and a friends car have both been hit, its just a matter of time before its my turn as well  :-\ just a matter of time before all of us go back to a broken window on that river system  >:(

the DFO guy told me that they are trying to get a permanent officer for the limit hole, for the peak fishing times at least
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: azafai on November 09, 2010, 10:52:45 AM
sounds like vigilante justice for those who decide to poach.......um i mean fish in the Closed limit hole  ;) Sounds like someone has had enough of this.


I have heard of similar tactics done on the Thompson by guys usually towards guys that are tossing guts for steelies (fly guys get worked up about this)


vigilante justice???   ???
you can NOT take the law in your hand.  REGARDLESS
that is even more against the law compared to what those poachers are doing.
the lawful justice against you will be even harsher and rightly justified if doing or supporting that type of practice.

Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: salmonsturgeontrout on November 09, 2010, 11:08:03 AM
Seems pretty stupid to slash someones tires, as unless you actually see the people stand next to the car there is no way to tell if its theirs or not. Someone else could have parked there and walked down river, the people fishing illegally could have been dropped off. My buddy caught a guy breaking into his car and the cops found the guy knocked out cold with a shattered jaw and his hands tied up with my buddy standing over him . damaging a vehicle is not always smart especially when you don't know who you are messing with.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: burnaby on November 09, 2010, 11:16:21 AM
"vigilante justice", add that to your oxymoron list. Once you stray from the law with righteous justification there is no limit.

How many animal lovers would luv to kick all anglers into a fast stream. Any fish will tell you all forms of fishing is unethical let it be C&R, meat harvesting, flyfishing, gear, ... We may call it a sport, pretty sure fish thinks we're poissonophiles.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: t-bone on November 09, 2010, 11:36:26 AM
Nothing is justified, not even taking air out of tires. What if the old guy is stuck up there, after dark, no traffic, no phone and health issues. It's stupid from any reasonable angle.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: t-bone on November 09, 2010, 11:37:23 AM
animal lovers, fishing, don't see the correlation. Its a hatchery program, wouldn't be there if not for animal lovers...
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: burnaby on November 09, 2010, 03:25:15 PM
Think raising Cocks for cock fighting.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: troutbreath on November 09, 2010, 07:02:37 PM
if the car window is open just enough to stuff a moldy salmon into.....
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: t-bone on November 10, 2010, 07:10:00 AM
now THAT i could support!
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: burnaby on November 10, 2010, 08:26:06 AM
+2 on the moldy salmon in the open window or at least on the windshield with a friendly note of "May all poachers and vandalizers Burn in hell"
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: D.Sams on November 17, 2010, 02:08:07 PM
Seems pretty stupid to slash someones tires, as unless you actually see the people stand next to the car there is no way to tell if its theirs or not. Someone else could have parked there and walked down river, the people fishing illegally could have been dropped off. My buddy caught a guy breaking into his car and the cops found the guy knocked out cold with a shattered jaw and his hands tied up with my buddy standing over him . damaging a vehicle is not always smart especially when you don't know who you are messing with.

Then I'm sure your buddy was privy to some serious lawful punishment, as what he did (assault and battery, illegal restraint) is considered a far worse crime than breaking into a vehicle.  If the police didn't, hopefully that car thief pressed charges.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: salmonsturgeontrout on November 17, 2010, 02:44:05 PM
This happened a number of years ago, he was never charged as the thief refused to cooperate. Cops new who the suspect was, multiple multiple offenses, and even told my buddy that they wished more cronic offenders ended up like that. My message is merely before anyone attempts to vandalize or do something stupid think twice as you may end up knocked out or worse! Use your brains out there people
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: D.Sams on November 17, 2010, 03:36:43 PM
It's unfortunate that both the car thief and the violent offender weren't charged.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: Easywater on November 17, 2010, 03:48:25 PM
It's unfortunate that both the car thief and the violent offender weren't charged.

Ask your wife to hold your purse for you the next time you go fishing.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: burnaby on November 17, 2010, 11:52:21 PM
Are you really that sympathetic to the criminals when you get to your car to find it broken into; or worst yet arrive at dusk to find it not driveable. Vigilante is never the solution; just tempting. 
It's unfortunate that both the car thief and the violent offender weren't charged.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: D.Sams on November 19, 2010, 09:25:45 AM
Ask your wife to hold your purse for you the next time you go fishing.

Resorting to personal attacks rather than constructive feedback, classy.  The point I was eluding to was that violence, in almost every circumstance or situation, should be avoided.  Law enforcement exists for a reason and I condone neither vandalism nor violence pertaining to it.  Both are punishable by law and should be enforced.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: milo on November 19, 2010, 12:59:30 PM
There is absolutely no excuse, reason or rationale to cause damage to others property.
 

True.
But God help those I catch red-handed damaging mine.
I will beat them into pulp. I have before and will again.  >:(

Vigilante justice?
Nah, protecting what is mine.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: marmot on November 19, 2010, 03:14:36 PM
True.
But God help those I catch red-handed damaging mine.
I will beat them into pulp. I have before and will again.  >:(

Vigilante justice?
Nah, protecting what is mine.

Oh come on... that's as "vigilante justice" as it gets.  Protecting whats yours is not connected in ANY way with any beating that happens after the fact...let's not pretend it's anything but revenge.

Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: milo on November 19, 2010, 05:52:34 PM
No, not revenge. Prevention.
I've had no repeat offenders.
Must be I did something right.

I have no use for lowlifes who make it a habit to steal from hard-working folk to support their lifestyle.
They are a waste of oxygen, IMO.


Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: jeff on November 19, 2010, 07:29:47 PM
I am with you on that Milo.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: burnaby on November 19, 2010, 09:30:28 PM
Deterrent is good. More oxygen for the good, hard working folks.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: blaydRnr on November 19, 2010, 11:44:06 PM
i don't condone violence, but i'd be hard pressed to say i wouldn't get physical if i caught some A-hole breaking into or vandalizing my car.
Title: Re: vandalism on the chilliwack
Post by: troutbreath on November 22, 2010, 07:00:54 AM
http://www.bclocalnews.com/fraser_valley/theprogress/news/108767889.html

one down for now