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Title: bastards at stave river today
Post by: frozensalmon on October 04, 2011, 08:47:39 PM
in the afternoon there were 4 guys there fishing in the spawning channel ! one was smoking pot and I'm sure they don't know nothing about regulation
I was walking pass them and started to yelled at them, they didn't give a **** and said am I a cop, we can fish anywhere we want , no one cares, so on...
then the guy who fished in the channel quickly pull up a big spring/chum up, at least 15 lb, 2 foot long at least, it's already turning red (spawn stage or something)

I can't do too much but I was so mad and called the DFO , DFO officer said it was great for me to call them, we will be taking care, damn, then they hanged up and wtf that's it?!  I wanna get the fish too but got to play by the rule man, those bastard think I was so stupid don't know there's fish in the channel wtf

While I was calling I think they left fast, at least I can't see them anymore, and  of coz they took that giant fish!

I don't want to just bitch or whine about this on a internet fourm, some action got to be taken, damn, seriously I think DFO is a joke
bastard ruin my day

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: DanJohn on October 04, 2011, 08:53:50 PM
WOW

A little excessive buddy. Sure, if they arent following the rules, call it in! Yell at em real good. But dont let it wreck your whole day. The world is full of a lot of different types of people. Just gotta live and let live man. Do what you can, but not at the cost of your own sanity.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: frozensalmon on October 04, 2011, 08:58:01 PM
I was ok until I saw them drag the fish to death...kicking the fish, using whatever that is I don't know to hit the fish..just abuse
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: nickredway on October 04, 2011, 09:04:26 PM
There's a reason these topics keep on getting moved  :)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: frozensalmon on October 04, 2011, 09:10:07 PM
There's a reason these topics keep on getting moved  :)

well ,  admin go ahead just move or delete I don't care, like I said complaining on a internet fourm is a joke anyway
there's always some people never give a cupcakes in real world about fishing

after they left I fished for another 2 hours, at least peace and calm , nice day
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: rjs on October 04, 2011, 09:34:32 PM
frozen salmon I take it u haven't fished there much ! waite till the real show shows up there  :o
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Geff_t on October 04, 2011, 10:03:33 PM
frozensalmon I hope this makes you feel better..  If the fish was in the shape you discribed then they will most likely get sick from eating it. It's what you call Karma. It always comes back to bite you.   ;D
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: frozensalmon on October 04, 2011, 10:22:37 PM
lol.. well , I do hope they get sick for just this time , so at least they will feel something is done wrong  :)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: RiverRunner on October 04, 2011, 11:56:13 PM
Maybe you should bring a camera next time you go fishing, make a video, post it on YouTube.  Seem like the popular thing to do on this forum :o
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mistermongz on October 05, 2011, 12:17:40 AM
well ,  admin go ahead just move or delete I don't care, like I said complaining on a internet fourm is a joke anyway
there's always some people never give a **** in real world about fishing

after they left I fished for another 2 hours, at least peace and calm , nice day

ok so if complaining on the internet is a joke then .... why complain  :D :D... LOL those bastard will have whats coming to them. Dont let stuff like this ruin your day as others have posted. You did what you can and you carry on with your day. There are alot of people that are just dumb or just dont have the knowledge that some of us have.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mistermongz on October 05, 2011, 12:20:13 AM
in the afternoon there were 4 guys there fishing in the spawning channel ! one was smoking pot and I'm sure they don't know nothing about regulation
I was walking pass them and started to yelled at them, they didn't give a **** and said am I a cop, we can fish anywhere we want , no one cares, so on...
then the guy who fished in the channel quickly pull up a big spring/chum up, at least 15 lb, 2 foot long at least, it's already turning red (spawn stage or something)

I can't do too much but I was so mad and called the DFO , DFO officer said it was great for me to call them, we will be taking care, damn, then they hanged up and wtf that's it?!  I wanna get the fish too but got to play by the rule man, those bastard think I was so stupid don't know there's fish in the channel wtf

While I was calling I think they left fast, at least I can't see them anymore, and  of coz they took that giant fish!

I don't want to just bitch or whine about this on a internet fourm, some action got to be taken, damn, seriously I think DFO is a joke
bastard ruin my day

 >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(


So what if they were smoking pot. big deal people smoke pot on the rivers all day long. makes the day go pretty good i might add  ::) :P 8)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Speychucker on October 05, 2011, 04:54:24 AM
Yup here we go again.......... ::)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Copper Koski on October 05, 2011, 07:25:12 AM
The last time I got upset with someone at the Stave, they had a bunch of live chum swimming around on their fish stringer. Long story short, I educated them how to bonk, bleed and clean their fish. I even got some beautiful roe out of it. Most people out there just don't know any better.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: typhoon on October 05, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Exactly. If someone is doing something illegal I talk to them (if possible), report them if the violation is clear and they don't recognize it, and go on with my day.
Many people don't know the regulations and calmly pointing it out often produces a good result. If you aggressively approach a violator they will fight back - it is simple human nature. All you will accomplish is ruining your own day.
I fish the Stave a lot and although I don't fish the toilet bowl, I really haven't seen much illegal activity.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mzmann on October 05, 2011, 10:46:45 AM

So what if they were smoking pot. big deal people smoke pot on the rivers all day long. makes the day go pretty good i might add  ::) :P 8)

X2 8) ;D :P
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Ed on October 05, 2011, 12:05:30 PM

So what if they were smoking pot. big deal people smoke pot on the rivers all day long. makes the day go pretty good i might add  ::) :P 8)

Agreed! also makes it less painful when i whip myself with a fly by accident.

 8)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: rosejeff on October 05, 2011, 12:54:55 PM
Seriously? Smoking pot and fishing? ???
I often take my kids out with me and this is not something I want them to associate with fishing. I really don't care if you want to do it, but at least go for a walk so that the rest of us on the river aren't exposed to it.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: bigblockfox on October 05, 2011, 01:22:11 PM
there smoking pot they must not know the rules. lol. go for a walk and lose my spot, forget it. i respect if your kids are around though and i will wait till there gone.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mistermongz on October 05, 2011, 06:43:25 PM
there smoking pot they must not know the rules. lol. go for a walk and lose my spot, forget it. i respect if your kids are around though and i will wait till there gone.


yup + 1 i dont smoke when there are kids around plus most of the time the places i fish are secluded with no one around ....
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Mister Twister on October 05, 2011, 11:45:21 PM
I'd sooner fish beside guys that are high on bud then some pack of drunks!
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: ~IvAn~ on October 06, 2011, 09:10:17 AM
Love the irony in this thread! I guess it is one way of smokng someone out of their spot  ::)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: DionJL on October 06, 2011, 10:30:56 AM
Seriously? Smoking pot and fishing? ???
I often take my kids out with me and this is not something I want them to associate with fishing. I really don't care if you want to do it, but at least go for a walk so that the rest of us on the river aren't exposed to it.


You could say the same to someone who smokes cigarettes. I couldn't care less about someone who smokes weed or tobacco on the river.

I've reported multiple people on the Stave for fishing the spawning channel, but I always politely tell them that it is a no fishing area. If they cease fishing there, then I wont report them, but often they just walk right back up the channel once you walk away. Then I report them, loudly giving a physical description to the RAPP operator.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Richmond on October 06, 2011, 12:02:50 PM
cigarettes should be banned in all public spaces, as for pot on the river, use a little discretion and its not a problem.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: bigblockfox on October 06, 2011, 01:04:51 PM
nothing gets me more when i see butts floating down the river. gross
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: DanJohn on October 06, 2011, 05:13:23 PM
cigarettes should be banned in all public spaces, as for pot on the river, use a little discretion and its not a problem.
LOL. You're kidding right? Cigarettes, legal and should be banned. But you condone pot use? How does this make any sense? Although I agree, both should not be used if there are children near enough to be exposed. People, I usually stay far enough away as to not disturb them. If they come into my bubble, and don't like the smoke, they can easily walk 20 foot upwind, but even then, I will do my best to keep it away from them. But I'm also considerate generally, where as a lot of smokers are pricks and don't care. Actually, seems like a lot of people are oblivious to their actions and how it affects others. I'm realizing this more and more everyday.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: nickredway on October 06, 2011, 10:37:39 PM
I vote for changing the name of this section to self righteous backslappers anonymous.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: nickredway on October 06, 2011, 10:57:14 PM
Just to clarify, there are a lot of great interesting threads in this section that are intelligent discussions about important issues, but this and many of the other such similar threads, especially some of those moved here from other sections just seem like an boring and endless barrage of people repeating the same points over and over again in the same thread in a battle of who is the most ethical. Everyone has to live their life according to their own conscience and that includes fishing, if people do something that offends your code on the river call them out on it, or not, it's up to you, just quit moaning about it on here like a herd of sheep.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: silver ghost on October 06, 2011, 11:48:23 PM
nothing gets me more when i see butts floating down the river. gross

x2 one time i picked it out of the water right in front of the guy who threw it and put it in my pocket with him watching me wondering what i was doing. i didnt say one word to him, just picked up his cigarette butt and pocketed it. he got the message after.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: nickredway on October 06, 2011, 11:50:35 PM
And a pat on the back for you............................
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Sandman on October 07, 2011, 05:24:09 AM
Honestly, smoking on the river is the least of our worries, but it is just another thing to ruin your day.  I cannot comprehend why I am left hacking and coughing as I pass a smoker on the river, or worse he passes me, when I am there for fresh air.  My own father, rest his soul, was a smoker, despite my efforts, but at least he carefully extinguished his butt in the water and placed it back in the pack to dispose of in the ashtray in the car.  I had to give him credit for that at least.  There were a few pot smokers at the Stave when I was last there and there were several younger fisherman around and it did not seem to matter to the tokers.  It did make me glad I left my own kids at home.  In the privacy of your home is one thing, but a public place frequented by kids is another.  Whether you agree with the law or not, it is illegal and opening flaunting the law is just a lesson I would not want my kids to learn. I am sure the guys fishing the channel (they were probably not after small trout or whitefish with those salmon rods) just disagreed with the law and chose to fish for salmon there anyway.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: DanJohn on October 07, 2011, 05:29:43 PM
I'm like your father sandman. Although I will knock off the cherry of a smoke into the water, its ash and leaf, so quite biodegradable, and the butt goes onto my back left pocket. I was taught in many different aspects of life, that you've done a good job if no one knows you were there.

And I think Nick needs a hug and a beer!  ;D
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: holmes on October 07, 2011, 11:02:32 PM
so this turned into a debate on weed?, really?, its weed man, its not even a drug really, cmon now folks, ppl are worried about joints?, meanwhile pharmaceutical companies and doctors are pumping drugs into our kids when they have a little sniffle or a cough, lets get real here, weed never killed anyone, alchohol and pharmaceuticals on the other hand.....one breaths in more harmful chemicals just walking down the street, this thread is quite laughable now,lmao, it's all about having respect for one and other and respecting who's around you, wasnt this thread about some idiots fishing on the stave?, its not the pot that made them idiots, idiots are idiots period, geez...... ;) ;) ;) ....holmes*

btw, i know who im going to call to go fishing if im over on the LML,lol, eh Fin  :-X :-X  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mistermongz on October 08, 2011, 10:25:44 AM
so this turned into a debate on weed?, really?, its weed man, its not even a drug really, cmon now folks, ppl are worried about joints?, meanwhile pharmaceutical companies and doctors are pumping drugs into our kids when they have a little sniffle or a cough, lets get real here, weed never killed anyone, alchohol and pharmaceuticals on the other hand.....one breaths in more harmful chemicals just walking down the street, this thread is quite laughable now,lmao, it's all about having respect for one and other and respecting who's around you, wasnt this thread about some idiots fishing on the stave?, its not the pot that made them idiots, idiots are idiots period, geez...... ;) ;) ;) ....holmes*

btw, i know who im going to call to go fishing if im over on the LML,lol, eh Fin  :-X :-X  ;D  ;D

+1 hahaha call me too i will bring the weed LOL  :P
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Sandman on October 08, 2011, 10:46:48 AM
Sandman , you better home school your kids if you don't want them to be exposed to weed.

No, I need not, as long as your kids do not bring your stash to the playground.  By the time they get exposed to it at school they will be informed enough they can make their own choices.  At 6 years old they are not ready for that lesson.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mzmann on October 08, 2011, 10:55:41 AM
+1 hahaha call me too i will bring the weed LOL  :P

+2 ^^^ lol...See you Next Monday Fin ;)
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Sandman on October 08, 2011, 10:58:56 AM
one breaths in more harmful chemicals just walking down the street

Unless you are walking directly through a tailpipe's exhaust cloud, there are definitely more toxins in the smoke you exhaled (I need not tell you how concentrate the smoke you inhaled was) from that joint or cigarette than the general air (which is much more dilute).  However,  we were not talking about walking down a street, we were talking about walking down a river bank.  That was my point.  If I walk behind a city bus, I can expect to get a lung full of toxins.  When I am fishing, I am not expecting you to exhale a cloud of toxins in the direction of me and my kids.  All I am asking for is a little unselfish behaviour.  I know people think you should be able to do what you like, when you like to do it, but at some point consideration for others has to come into play.  That is all.  I will keep my eyes open for you guys and be sure to walk up wind.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Dennis.t on October 08, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
This so funny...Who gives a cupcakes what the dude next to you is smoking.I could care less if they pulled out a bong and started hitting on that! Good entertainment on a saturday afternoon! ;D :D
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: joy-of-fishing on October 08, 2011, 02:06:55 PM
I would care though I would say something, i dont care what they think I dont what a disgusting smelling smoke blown into my face. Marijuan is a drug.... that is why it is illegal
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: mistermongz on October 08, 2011, 02:07:25 PM
This so funny...Who gives a **** what the dude next to you is smoking.I could care less if they pulled out a bong and started hitting on that! Good entertainment on a saturday afternoon! ;D :D


 :D :D :D that would be funny hahaha
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Dennis.t on October 08, 2011, 02:32:50 PM
I say it because ive seen it! Ha ha ha! It had lots of tubes coming out of it and 4 dudes were having a good ole time!
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: holmes on October 08, 2011, 10:03:40 PM
I would care though I would say something, i dont care what they think I dont what a disgusting smelling smoke blown into my face. Marijuan is a drug.... that is why it is illegal

that is NOT why it is illegal my friend, it is illegal because of american politics, do a little research b4 ya start spouting off at the mouth, maybe watch the movie reefer madness and go talk with woody harrelson, another reason is because of the cotton farmers way back when, they wanted to keep the hemp industry down so they made the inference of hemp to weed and all the propoganda to go with it, blah blah blah, do some research and reading and it mite just open your eyes as to why it is illegal, how many ppl cant operate machinery after smoking a joint, u tell me its the same with alcohol, or pharmaceuticals or even cough medicine, you wont win this battle with me, im tellin ya rite now, and yes sandman i agree that discretion and common sense should come into play, something i have lots of, i would never just go walking by someone hauling down on a chonger okay, i have enough decentcy and respect, im not some 16 year old kid, and so your kid is 6 yrs old?, well you better have the talk now because i can tell ya rite now that i knew what weed and hash and a whole host of other things were b4 i was 6 yrs old so him/her knowing is not too far away in this day and age sir, remember that thing called tv or internet or movies, kids are a lot smarter and perceptive than u give them credit for, and u cant be with them 24/7, you may think that their friends parents dont smoke weed and maybe they dont but u truly never know, sorry to tell ya, u dont, so when little johnny and your son are at skool hangin on the playground and having a chat and johnny says to your son that his parents smoke funny lookin or smellin cigarettes, well, thats when it starts, im not even tryin to tell ya how or what to do with your children, IM JUST SAYIN, i could cite examples and scenarios all nite long but im sure ya get the point, DO NOT underestimate the mind, curiosity and perceptiveness of a child......they know stuff far b4 you or i realize they do.....holmes*
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: holmes on October 08, 2011, 10:12:27 PM
id be far more concerned about allowing my kid to eat at mcranchies or taco bell then knowing about or smelling some weed, cmon now, how many parents come home and open up a box of kd, or give their kid cheese wiz, or let them eat fruit loops or any of the other processed food crap, if you want to call it food, i call it filler, and ppl are worried about a kid smelling the odour of weed?, lets get real here please, the foods parents let their kids eat are far more harmful to their physical and mental well being than any joint...geez louise....this is totally not a personal attack, as i dont know your life, its just a general rant and maybe some actual FOOD for thought eh......holmes*

so fin,mistermongz and mzmann, when and where are we going fishin,lol
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: chronic_topdawg on October 08, 2011, 10:28:45 PM
Spark er :D
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: holmes on October 09, 2011, 10:24:05 PM
true enough Fin, im still waiting for a response from sandman tho, pretty unusual that he is at a loss for words,lol  ??? ...holmes*
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: Sandman on October 10, 2011, 09:47:10 AM
true enough Fin, im still waiting for a response from sandman tho, pretty unusual that he is at a loss for words,lol  ??? ...holmes*

Sorry holmes, I did not realize you were waiting for a response for that "general rant."  You also did not say anything that everybody doesn't know already.  My 6 year old does not go to "friends" houses whose parents I have not met already, so I would know if they smoked reefer in their home or not.  I do not judge people for smoking weed, my dearly departed father smoked more than cigarettes, as do my kid's aunts and uncles, as did many of us at some point in our lives.  I no longer smoke or drink alcohol and I choose to model that behaviour to my kids.  What I did was expressed a distaste for people engaged in smoking weed in a public place frequented by children which not only would provoke the "why are they allowed to break the law" discussion (this is the talk they do not need at 6 years old, the one about whether the law is fair or just), but also there is the fact that they are not just breathing in the "odour" from the pot, they are breathing in the smoke and the drug as well, even if it is in small amounts.  By what right does anyone have to spread that toxic smoke around where people who do not wish to smoke drugs have to inhale it?  Defend the behaviour all you want, you wont win that argument.
Title: Re: bastards at stave river today
Post by: holmes on October 10, 2011, 07:33:46 PM
nope not defending it at all sandman and my rant wasnt totally directed at yourself, glad u cleared that up tho, cheers and happy thanksgiving....holmes*