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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Stealth on November 13, 2008, 04:56:02 PM
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Just a word to keep everyone up to date, as some may know my primary job is a guide on the Fraser river and this season I was fortunate to be extremely busy, but because of this my attention to Stealth has suffered. Last December we introduced our new Traditional Series floats. These new floats are available in two sizes, a 23 gram and a 28 gram. The Traditional series floats are a substantial upgrade from our original design and after a full year on the market and after some extensive field testing I can say that these are the toughest, best fishing clear floats on the market today. Stealth floats are available at most tackle stores in the lower mainland and also at several locations on Vancouver Island and in Northern B.C. Check here for a location near you http://www.stealthfishing.com/dealers/ The Traditional Series floats are still only $3.99 and this includes the float collars. Last Steelhead season I fished all season with only 2 floats and I only had to replace the first one after loosing it to a snag when my main line broke above the float. I also frequently fish in pocket water in boulder gardens so my floats do take a serious beating. If you haven't tried our Stealth Traditional series floats give them a go I think you will be impressed how well they fish. Have a great steelhead season everyone, I know I am looking forward to it as this is when I get to do some fishing for me finally!
Fish on!
Stealth
www.stealthfishing.com
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I too used them last Steelhead season and i do like them.
The new ones dont leak and the fish love em.
Had more than one Steelhead try and take the darn float last year. :o ;D
Good luck with the float business and hope to see a smaller version one day.
Not everyone fishes the Vedder ya know Steve. ;)
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I have also had a number of steelhead try to eat my float over the years, it is always exciting!
BTW smaller sizes are on the drawing board but the wheels of progress unfortunately turn slowly.
Sooner or later we will get some small sizes on the market!
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What about a green tint ???
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What about a green tint ???
Hello Spoonman
Currently we have no plans for tinted floats as we feel that the clear floats will adapt best to any river water colour conditions.
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i found that the float actually glows a light blue in bright sunlight condition when i the water, out of the water it is clear
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last season I took several pictures of the floats from under water (a fish eye view) I did this during different water and weather conditions and the floats blended in very very well. I didn't see any blue color? maybe you held you head under water too long and you were hallucinating due to lack of of oxygen ;) ;D I hate it when that happens!
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I broke 6 of these floats in one day.
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I broke 6 of these floats in one day.
Hello Adriaticum
I can say with certainty that you did not break six of the new floats (Traditional series), how ever we did have problems with our original design some batches were good and some were not. let me know where and when you purchased them and I will take care of you.
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The traditional series are 100x better than the originals!!!!!
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if u made the traditionals in the original size i'd like them alot better, i find the longer float to track better in the water. I bought a bunch (20) when they came out, i still have 3
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What about a green tint ???
Hello Spoonman
Currently we have no plans for tinted floats as we feel that the clear floats will adapt best to any river water colour conditions.
Too bad :( Could be you are missing out on a larger market share.Or is the cost too prohibitive ???
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i found that the float actually glows a light blue in bright sunlight condition when i the water, out of the water it is clear
It's what the fish see or don't see that is important, not the angler.
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Any angler who know what he is doing does NOT need "High Tech" floats. As the ING person says-- "Save your money!!!
Dink floats work as well now as they did when they were all the rage many years ago..
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Any angler who know what he is doing does NOT need "High Tech" floats. As the ING person says-- "Save your money!!!
Dink floats work as well now as they did when they were all the rage many years ago..
Harsh much. If you have something that negative to say, I would suggest you not post at all! It's his business man :-\. A better approach would to suggest something to Stealth, rather then make a comment like that.
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Like any piece of sporting equipment, half of the equation is confidence in what you are using. If you are choosing line with less drag, clear floats, and certain flies, or cured roe, or whatever...if you believe it will give you more confidence. Obviously, Stealth Floats has an interest in their product, but that's great....I'm envious that someone's passion has turned into a business opportunity....isn't that the ideal???
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Every one is entitled to their opinion, you can catch fish with a red and white bobber and a stick if you really want to, what never fails to surprise me is that guys will spend big bucks on waders, rods and reels and then cheap out on terminal tackle like floats, hooks and line.
As I said you can catch fish with any float but quality floats do fish better and catch more fish when fishing is tough or a technical approach is required, not to mention a good float is just plain nicer to fish with, Just like a quality rod and reel.
I mentioned earlier that I fished all of last steeelhead season with two floats and I still have the second one. Eight bucks for a seasons worth of floats seems like a deal to me when you concider the performance and how nice the floats fish. IMHO
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Like any piece of sporting equipment, half of the equation is confidence in what you are using. If you are choosing line with less drag, clear floats, and certain flies, or cured roe, or whatever...if you believe it will give you more confidence. Obviously, Stealth Floats has an interest in their product, but that's great....I'm envious that someone's passion has turned into a business opportunity....isn't that the ideal???
Couldnt have said it better myself.
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last season I took several pictures of the floats from under water (a fish eye view) I did this during different water and weather conditions and the floats blended in very very well. I didn't see any blue color? maybe you held you head under water too long and you were hallucinating due to lack of of oxygen ;) ;D I hate it when that happens!
Would you care to share the pics? post or PM?
Hello Ghost fish
Unfortunately the pictures were poor quality so I did not keep them. I do plan on taking more and posting them on the stealthfishing.com web site along with other styles of floats for anglers to see the difference for them selves.
Sometimes float style and color makes no difference to the fish what so ever, but some times it really does I have seen this for myself many times!
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do tell, i think the clear floats are great, whether its just confinence or not, i believe they help. Stealths track well if using a larger sized float, the 28 gramer, but i find that for some reason when dropping down 2 the 23gramer and splitshot the float has a mind of its own
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Go ahead then guys-- its your money to waste. But dont come down on me just because I point out that an angler does not need to buy in to this latest and greatest thing that someone has come up with to help his retirement!!! ::)
btw-- how come this is not posted in the advertizers specials forum????
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Go ahead then guys-- its your money to waste. But dont come down on me just because I point out that an angler does not need to buy in to this latest and greatest thing that someone has come up with to help his retirement!!! ::)
btw-- how come this is not posted in the advertizers specials forum????
Having the latest bling does not catch you any more fish.
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But it may give you the "feel good" factor and possibly improve your confidence on the water.
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You can't put a price on the confidance you get from blinging :) So I say get them new floats if it makes you feel good.
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how do u find the dink just as sensitive or less spooky 2 the fish, if ur fishing a 6ft deep run with 4ft of visibility the fish can see ur gear, i dont think thats stealth at all.
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so your saying i cant hook that fish because ill spook them with my foam float? that fish will hit it in clear water even if im using a foam float.....my foam floats are every bit as sensitive....properly balanced and shaped to the size i want
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do tell, i think the clear floats are great, whether its just confidence or not, i believe they help. Stealths track well if using a larger sized float, the 28 gramer, but i find that for some reason when dropping down 2 the 23gramer and splitshot the float has a mind of its own
Hello Youngun
I use the 23gram pretty much exclusively for steelhead but it is less forgiving when it come to weight because it is shorter. Put enough lead on it so that when the float is sitting in still water the water level is just at the top of the Chartruse stripe as shown in the rigging page http://www.stealthfishing.com/rigging/ you find that it tracks very well then. It sounds to me like you are underweighting the float.
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no i its not the weight i have cut all my lead according 2 the weight that is needed, i used a digital scale and got the weights perfect. My problem is when trying 2 keep a tight line with the float (not lay my line on the water) i the float wavers back and forth, in a zigzag, not any extreme but weird. The 28gramer doesn't have a problem. Mabey its the specific float. But i do still like the length of the old ones.
Do u find the less weight more stealth or is there no need for it. I find that where i fish (mid to upper river) the heavier float keeps u in the zone longer and better than the lighter setups, i sometimes in pocket water or deep fast runs go up to 35 grams.
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Go ahead then guys-- its your money to waste. But dont come down on me just because I point out that an angler does not need to buy in to this latest and greatest thing that someone has come up with to help his retirement!!! ::)
btw-- how come this is not posted in the advertizers specials forum????
Just so you know Stealth Floats donated their time and alot of their product last year at our Steelhead Derby and helped make it a great success with all the proceeds going to the SDA !!! I think they have a great product at a reasonable price, if you would rather fish with a dink float then go ahead !! why would you waste yours and everyone elses time with your negative comment on his post ???? just doesn't make sense to me.
and just a simple question ?? what is it you do for a living ?? maybe we can make it public and scrutinize you
Rick
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are any of these Stealths made with a hole through the center yet?? I bought a few of the originals and wasnt a big fan of the rubber tubing around the post thing they had. I really like piker style floats and do use the foam or balsa ones, and like balsa better but for $7 a float its gets pricey LOL and i refuse to pay for Drennans. these floats at $3.99 are a good value especially if they are stronger, I would like to see a green tinted one also though and also designed with the straight through hole.
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no i its not the weight i have cut all my lead according 2 the weight that is needed, i used a digital scale and got the weights perfect. My problem is when trying 2 keep a tight line with the float (not lay my line on the water) i the float wavers back and forth, in a zigzag, not any extreme but weird. The 28gramer doesn't have a problem. Mabey its the specific float. But i do still like the length of the old ones.
Do u find the less weight more stealth or is there no need for it. I find that where i fish (mid to upper river) the heavier float keeps u in the zone longer and better than the lighter setups, i sometimes in pocket water or deep fast runs go up to 35 grams.
The weight rating on the float is just a guideline, I really didn't expect anyone to actually weigh their lead to the exact grams. so weight you float so it fishes properly for you that may mean a little more weight than exactly 23 grams. As I said that is the size I use for steelhead and when weighted as shown on the rigging page they fish very well.
The original Stealth floats are still available at some stores. We have gone threw them and inspected them for defects as best as possible, the originals are not as durable as the Traditional series but they are a great deal as they are on sale for $1.99 per float. The stores that have them are selling them in bins as we unpackaged them so we could inspect them.
Stores that have the clearance floats in stock are
Army and Navy
Reaction Fly and Tackle
Riverside Fly and Tackle
Fred's tackle
Chilliwack Dart and Tackle
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are any of these Stealths made with a hole through the center yet?? I bought a few of the originals and wasnt a big fan of the rubber tubing around the post thing they had. I really like piker style floats and do use the foam or balsa ones, and like balsa better but for $7 a float its gets pricey LOL and i refuse to pay for Drennans. these floats at $3.99 are a good value especially if they are stronger, I would like to see a green tinted one also though and also designed with the straight through hole.
We do not ever plan on making straight threw clear floats. One of the main goals was to eliminate the need for bobber stops I really found those things to be a pain in the butt. Weather a float is a collar style or an straight threw makes no difference to the way it fishes. The New Traditional series floats comes with surgical tubing and some clear plastic tubing. The surgical tubing goes on top and the clear on the bottom http://www.stealthfishing.com/rigging/ , it is amazing how well this works! The float stays where you put it, rock solid but you can still adjust it easily and they stay on very well when you break off below the float.
Currently we also plan on staying with clear because regardless of the water color a clear float will always be the right color and adapt to the water conditions.
O and BTW these floats are very durable as I stated earlier I fished all steelhead season (25 days) with 2 floats and I still have the second one, the fisrt one was lost to a snag when the line broke above the float.
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are u planning 2 make then with a thinner stem, i make smaller floats from balsa and add wood stems 2 then where i secure the line with large sized junction tubing for tube flies. These floats are in the 15-20gram range. I dont like how the stems are so large.
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Pulled a traditional series out of the river in October and I must say, it was quite nice. It did have smaller stems than the originals.
it would be sweet if they came tinted brown though. I keep buying the drennans because of the tint but I would purchase the stealths if they came tinted
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are u planning 2 make then with a thinner stem, i make smaller floats from balsa and add wood stems 2 then where i secure the line with large sized junction tubing for tube flies. These floats are in the 15-20gram range. I dont like how the stems are so large.
We are planning on shorting the stem slightly with the next shipment but we will not make it thinner as this will also be much weaker as well.
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Pulled a traditional series out of the river in October and I must say, it was quite nice. It did have smaller stems than the originals.
it would be sweet if they came tinted brown though. I keep buying the drennans because of the tint but I would purchase the stealths if they came tinted
I must say I am surprised with the interest for tinted floats, in the past I found that the clear drennen floats always were more popular.
Our thinking was that a clear float would blend in automatically with water color conditions so tinted floats would not be necessary.
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(http://www.stealthfishing.com/gallery/18.jpg)
Earlier in the thread I was asked for the pictures of the floats in the water, I thought that I deleted them but I found it today while working on a different site of mine so here it is. Looks pretty "stealthy" to me :D
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impressive shot, think I'll be picking a couple up soon
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was that taken on a sunny day though?? because i dove under the water to see if the rumor of the clear floats glowing 'BLUE' was true or not and found that they did glow a bit :-\ and yes Drennans do it also.
perhaps the new series floats have remedied this problem though ;D nice shot anyhow
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was that taken on a sunny day though?? because i dove under the water to see if the rumor of the clear floats glowing 'BLUE' was true or not and found that they did glow a bit :-\ and yes Drennans do it also.
perhaps the new series floats have remedied this problem though ;D nice shot anyhow
Yes it was a sunny day out, the water had just a tinge of color to it. Hope to get some better shots in the future and also some video comparing clear, white and black floats as well.