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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: SteelheadAdict on March 15, 2014, 08:48:43 PM

Title: Trout beads
Post by: SteelheadAdict on March 15, 2014, 08:48:43 PM
have u had Sucsess with them? personally i have caught my fair share of steelhead float fishing with them and bulls aswell.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ian Forbes on March 16, 2014, 08:20:59 AM
I seldom use beads, other than on spinners, but I DO use spun wool egg flies. They work like a hot damn everywhere fish feed on eggs.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Riverman on March 16, 2014, 10:04:54 AM
 I first started using them on the Adams.Having a variety of them allows for different presentation at different stages of spawning.I have used tied egg paterns as well.I like scented eggs for places like the Vedder where it is permitted.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Pin-nook on March 18, 2014, 08:22:51 AM
I was shipped a HUGE sample pack with 12(50ea) different colours by Great Lakes Steelhead Company(Trick Em Beads) as I had gotten to know 1 of the co-founders through another forum. They look so real that I thought for sure another thing to add to the arsenal but had more confidence with what worked before. I have only used beads a handful of times but did hook a small doe holding in a pocket in fast water a couple years ago. Last year fishing with 2 buds; 1 using steelhead roe, I was using a jig and another buddy just using a tiny trout bead.

We started fishing a stretch with some long pocket water and first down was my buddy with steel roe while 2 of us were taking our time chatting and slowly making our way down. At the top of the run after buddy with steel roe had worked it with no bites, my buddy behind me batting cleanup gets two hits right away with 1 resulting with 1 chunky Bull. The first big pocket, our buddy with the roe says he may have had a bump but never had a solid hit after. I had a good feeling this pocket had a fish or 2 in it cause it looked too fishy not to, I ran my jig through it a few times before our buddy batting cleanup had caught up. I said I'm gonna throw the jig in that spot a couple more times before switching to a bead and on the second drift through my Buddy's float/bead was literally half a foot behind mine when his float rockets under and you see his line rippin to the other side of the river.  We knew this was no small fish as his rod was fully bent and wasn't slowing the fish down. To make a long story short, he eventually landed a chubby 16-17lbs wild buck with a tiny bead and there was already a roe bag recently broken off in the roof of it's mouth. He then went on to out fish us that day.  I personally think it all has to do with confidence and if you stick with it as well as presenting it properly then it should work.
 
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ian Forbes on March 18, 2014, 10:44:48 AM
I have countless stories of where a single egg outfished a chunk of fresh steelhead roe. Sometimes going down in size does matter.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: VAGAbond on March 18, 2014, 12:16:14 PM
A buddy and I hooked 16 steelhead in two days of guided fishing on the Stamp a few years ago using small orange beads of about 1/4 ".  Sold me on that approach.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Easywater on March 18, 2014, 02:36:31 PM
I have seen guys catch huge rainbows in the Adams with single beads.

This happens right after the Sockeye spawn in the Shuswap.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: NexusGoo on March 18, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Depending on the water level and clarity, I like going down in size to either a trout bead or a single Jensen egg. Have had a few good day for Steelies
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: likely on March 18, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
They work well in the quesnell river and cariboo river
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: riptide on March 18, 2014, 10:37:07 PM
Do you find a trout bead much different than a traditional corkie
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Dogbreath on March 18, 2014, 11:21:37 PM
I was in a bead store on Granville Island on the weekend and the clerk told me that whenever men go into the store they're always after beads in shades of Red or Orange.

I couldn't believe the selection & the prices in the place-both outstanding-great service too.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ian Forbes on March 18, 2014, 11:22:44 PM
Do you find a trout bead much different than a traditional corkie

It all depends on the water level, current speed and time of year. Oddly enough, steelhead will ignore a large, bare hook and just take the tiny bead attached to it. I once caught a summer-run on a tiny steelhead egg that did not cover the tip of a bare, 6/0 hook. The steelhead had previously refused fresh roe, a spinner and a spoon. The fish was hooked in the tip if his snout. I've experienced similar events over 50 years of fishing steelhead all over the province.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ian Forbes on March 18, 2014, 11:34:10 PM
I was in a bead store on Granville Island on the weekend and the clerk told me that whenever men go into the store they're always after beads in shades of Red or Orange.

I couldn't believe the selection & the prices in the place-both outstanding-great service too.

Oh thay, thum of my friends shop at the thame store... ;)

(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/album27/Katoi_group.jpg)
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Pin-nook on March 19, 2014, 07:33:48 AM

(http://gallery.fishbc.com/albums/album27/Katoi_group.jpg)

Ian, this isn't a trick question right? I'm thinking the person on the very right, the rest are suspect! It's Thailand after all, you can never be sure! ;)
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: SteelheadAdict on March 19, 2014, 08:59:02 AM
Do you find a trout bead much different than a traditional corkie

yes i find the corkie's don't look as natural when drifting down the run and i dont think cokies look as good my friend the egg beads
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: c-pin on March 19, 2014, 10:36:30 AM
I have had great success with rigging a Trout Bead with Wool on a river where there is a Bait Ban for Steelhead and Salmon alike. I use it instead of a Jensen Egg. In fact, sometimes, I've had greater success on Trout Bead than Jensen Egg at times.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ezio on March 19, 2014, 01:43:21 PM
   For those of you fishing beads, How to you set them up?   Its something I've been want to try, But curious setting them up effectively, whether you peg them on the leader away from your hook, or just let them freely slide on your leader.   

   I've had good success with a single jenson egg, but i think that the variety of beads in all sizes for all stages of the egg's in water entices me that much.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Rodney on March 19, 2014, 01:45:42 PM
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/2010/11/17/tricking-egg-feeders/

http://www.fishingwithrod.com/blog/2009/09/23/egging-for-trout-in-a-salmon-stream/
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: BIG T on March 19, 2014, 03:56:50 PM
Ian, this isn't a trick question right? I'm thinking the person on the very right, the rest are suspect! It's Thailand after all, you can never be sure! ;)

Yes. You are so right. And they will bite anything .  ;D
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: riptide on March 19, 2014, 08:11:38 PM
Yikes !!! Ian , that photo looks like a promo  left on the cutting room floor from Hangover 2 ... Back to the beads , do they have buoyancy or weight , once again comparing corkies to beads ?


Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ian Forbes on March 19, 2014, 08:32:33 PM
Everybody that knows me also understand that I am always joking around. The 4 transvestites in the picture are what is known as Katoi, or ladyboys... which are a mixed up gender of a woman in a man's body. They are very common in Thailand. Some are very pretty and it is hard to tell unless you know how to spot them.

But, getting back to beads they are just another weapon in an angler's arsenal. Try them occasionally when you know there are fish, but they just won't bite. I was fortunate to be in many places in the 1960s when there were hundreds of steelhead in remote rivers near logging camps. Catching fish was easy, but it also gave me the opportunity to experiment a lot and learn more.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: zap brannigan on March 19, 2014, 10:08:44 PM
the plastic ones are kinda neutral but there is a bead called hevi-beads and their made of glass they sink and come in 100's of colours somereally goofy looking some really good looking.
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: riptide on March 19, 2014, 10:28:13 PM
Thanks Zap , had a lot of success over the years with corkies but always willing to try something new
Title: Re: Trout beads
Post by: Ian Forbes on March 19, 2014, 10:50:13 PM
the plastic ones are kinda neutral but there is a bead called hevi-beads and their made of glass they sink and come in 100's of colours somereally goofy looking some really good looking.

Yup! It STILL comes down to getting your lure (and plastic or glass beads ARE lures) at the depth and places where the fish hold. There are many techniques to get your lure to a fish in the best manner possible. Very often where you stand can make the difference in getting a fish and not getting a fish. Move 10 feet and Bingo! You are into them.