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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: chris gadsden on July 25, 2004, 07:26:30 PM

Title: Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: chris gadsden on July 25, 2004, 07:26:30 PM
Just got a report of a near drowning or drowning at Grassy Bar. Sounds like a First Nations fisher. Going to investigate now.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: chris gadsden on July 25, 2004, 10:15:46 PM
Got some info as I freelance for Global taking it to the station now for possible use on morning news. Will file a report later on after my trip to Vancouver tonight on what happened.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: chris gadsden on July 26, 2004, 01:12:02 AM
Brifly from what I gather a First Nation fisher was by one report setting a drift net and got tangled up in it and flipped the boat with him being thrown into the water.

Another report said he was ripping in to shore then back out and then flipped his boat.

Some anglers that were anchored out from shore resued the person taking him to shore.

Chilliwack Search and Resue took him to Island 22 to a waiting ambulance that took him to hospital.

Global TV has the tape so they may use it on the morning news if the quality of the tape is news worthy and good enough.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: leadbelly on July 26, 2004, 06:34:18 AM
didnt see your story Chris but at least they showed the river
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: chris gadsden on July 26, 2004, 07:34:42 AM
Yes Ray, they have not used it to date. A drive to Vancouver for nothing maybe but the donuts I picked up at North road were good. :D

Lots of talk about the new agreement to allow Native only fishing on the News today instead.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 26, 2004, 10:32:01 AM
Thanks for the report Chris. Glad to hear nobody was seriously injured
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: chris gadsden on July 26, 2004, 10:47:49 AM
Yes Ray, they have not used it to date. A drive to Vancouver for nothing maybe but the donuts I picked up at North road were good. :D

Lots of talk about the new agreement to allow Native only fishing on the News today instead.

Chris..you were so close to my neck of the woods we could have gone out for coffee
Yes and I should have brought the video down which I thought of partway down but was in a rush to get it to global. The start of a hetic week.

Will most likely mail it to you .

Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Fishin Freak on July 26, 2004, 09:44:42 PM
Funny thing, I just ran into the guy who knows this guy (the native) From what he said the native man and a white man got in a verbal confrontation with each other when the privledged individual was setting his net. They were exchanging words out on the water with each other when the white man took his boat and plowed over the natives fibreglass boat destroying it. The native man fell into his net and got tangled up but took his knife he had on him and cut himself free. Appartently the white man is being charged with attempted murder.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: otto on July 26, 2004, 09:47:27 PM
 :o

thats some serious stuff......

i always carry a sharp knife with me when i'm hiking or on the water...you just never know.  cut a guy outta his waders a couple years back when he fell and snaggeg him self on a pile of trees in the cheackamus.....


Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: chris gadsden on July 26, 2004, 10:13:35 PM
Funny thing, I just ran into the guy who knows this guy (the native) From what he said the native man and a white man got in a verbal confrontation with each other when the privledged individual was setting his net. They were exchanging words out on the water with each other when the white man took his boat and plowed over the natives fibreglass boat destroying it. The native man fell into his net and got tangled up but took his knife he had on him and cut himself free. Appartently the white man is being charged with attempted murder.
This is a new twist to this as I interviewed 4 different people on video and not one gave a discription of the events any where close to this including one of the witness's that was very close to the incident.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Fish Assassin on July 26, 2004, 10:44:23 PM
I would tend to believe Chris' version of what happened.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Fishin Freak on July 26, 2004, 10:47:41 PM
Believe what you want i'm just telling you what I heard from the guy who knows this individual.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Dynamite kid on July 27, 2004, 08:17:17 AM
Hey FF thats the problem with hallucinogens.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Gooey on July 27, 2004, 02:32:24 PM
If I were a native fisherman...what would sound better...uhm fell out my boat (drunk maybe) and almost died or whitey tried to run me down.

I think its a BS rumor designed to fuel the war on the fraser.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Gooey on July 27, 2004, 09:32:00 PM
Indeed, I am sure that guy would get a ton of flack...but seriously, someone running his boat down???  that sounds absurd to me, regardless of the situation.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Jimmy on July 27, 2004, 11:18:35 PM
The guy was putting the net in a fell ove his boat. he got pulled in and then pushed himself out again. Then about 100 feet down there as 3 of us pulling him out. as we got him out 2 other native boats cam and got him.

The jet boat was when he was there the fisrt time and he didn't run over him just gave him a little shower ;D

They guy was so pissed he was more  worried about his gaft than his boat!
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Fishin Freak on July 30, 2004, 10:07:37 PM
Here the story from the Times http://www.chilliwacktimes.com/issues04/074204/news/074204nn5.html The remarks this native guy makes just makes me want to smack him!!!
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: dennisK on August 02, 2004, 07:31:26 AM
If I were a native fisherman...what would sound better...uhm fell out my boat (drunk maybe) and almost died or whitey tried to run me down.

I think its a BS rumor designed to fuel the war on the fraser.

your theory is funn, gooey - but prol'y closer to the truth. the thing about this story is the native fisherman says he "understands" people get mad and wants things just to be bygones even with the white guys who rammed his boat. WTF? Someone tries to sink me and drown me (according to him) and he just wants to let things lie. excuse me, but that is really not likely - i think most of us would want to full weight of the law on someone who tries to drown you - so this statement by him makes me really doubt his version of events.

what a crazy bunch of events out there - the gov't/cops should really patrol out there more often.

meh.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: SNapz on August 02, 2004, 09:17:16 PM
I like this line in the interview.

Mussell said, "I'm not angry with the sports fishermen, I just want everyone to be equal."

lol.
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 03, 2004, 12:29:14 AM
There's the quote of the year :D
Title: Re:Incident at Grassy Bar
Post by: BirdNester on August 03, 2004, 12:36:05 AM
Quote
"I'm not angry with the sports fishermen, I just want everyone to be equal."

When I read that story, that was about the only thing I remembered after I was finished. I think typically if you want to lie you feel you might get away with it if you give a little to the other side, makes it more believable... but this guy's kinda ridiculous.
I've held more of a grudge with family members that drank my beer. Who's that guy kidding? I think I know which version of the story I believe.
RobertO