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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: small_fish on September 22, 2006, 11:27:59 AM
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Me and my dad went out to the rivers mouth today, about 5 guys, put 3 casts in and then deicieded to go up towards the hatchey, When we arrived we realized how low the water was!! I guess the rain absoultly did'nt help, did'nt cast and we came home, Did'nt see any coho or any type of fish. Water level was below 1. Terrible first day
Its my sisters birthday, I'm off to eat a HUGE lunch cya!
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Thanks for the report! and happy birthday to your sister =)
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I was checking the Cap couple of afternoons ago; the deluge we had didn't bring the river up any.
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The problem with the Cap is that 90% of the watershed is blocked off by the dam, the dam will have to re-fill to the spilling point in order for the water to rise at all.
All of the naturally regulated rivers will be up and fishing well while the cap is still trying to fill the dam up.......
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better luck next time SF and thanks for the report :)
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The problem with the Cap is that 90% of the watershed is blocked off by the dam, the dam will have to re-fill to the spilling point in order for the water to rise at all.
All of the naturally regulated rivers will be up and fishing well while the cap is still trying to fill the dam up.......
Why don't you head down to the Indian Reserve and see how many the Indians are snagging? They're not doing well. ;D I was down there last night and talked to a couple of guys, and they're saying they're not here. Check out the estuary. There's NOTHING there relative to past years. I mean NOTHING!!!!!!! Nothing jumping. No fish being found. There's a few in the estuary, but not very many. Not very many at all. :-[
No 'hos being found by the fleet in the chuck either---and there's no fresh fish--if there were fresh ones there, you'd catch 'em 'cuz they still bite contrary to popular belief. ::)
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Magician, why did you highlight and quote my post when talking about the Natives having trouble snagging? I don't see the correlation between dams holding back water and lack of fish in the ocean? I don't mind being quoted I am just confused as to how are post are related.
Any clarification appreciate, thanks in advance
Pat
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Yep, im going to wait for next weekend and check it out
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Checked it out today as well, it is very low. I saw about 3 jump so I put in an hour trying to get one but had no luck. Need more rain.
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thanks for the report guys, yes more rain could help ;D
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where did u go young gun?
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I was under the highway bridge off Taylor Way or watever its called
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im going to the highway pool like weekend..
i think sunday
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Magician, why did you highlight and quote my post when talking about the Natives having trouble snagging? I don't see the correlation between dams holding back water and lack of fish in the ocean? I don't mind being quoted I am just confused as to how are post are related.
Any clarification appreciate, thanks in advance
Pat
Your post implies that fishing in the Cap is slow because the river levels hasn't risen as a result of rain (thereby signalling the Coho to enter the River, and move in to the area). If there was some rain and the fish were stacked up out front in the chuck, in the estuary and along West Vancouver, then I'd see your point about the fish not being able to go up the river. That's usually what happens. When that happens and the fish are there, the Natives are very adept at snagging them in the pool below their shopping cart weirs, and saltwater anglers hook them with regularity.
So, the point of my post is, rain or no rain, let the dam go, or not, there is NO difference as there are NO COHO around to be caught right now--or make their way into the river or higher water makes no difference to "call them in"....and even if 50 BLACK hook nosed jack coho did choose to enter the Cap.. so what? The biggest issue is...the fish are 1---extremely late or 2---NOT COMING for the Capilano River system. If what I suspect is true---the latter will be the eventuality.
How do I know? I know of 1 Coho found by the sports fleet fishing the mouth of the Cap in the last 2 weeks--and it was a wild. For the beach casters, I know of 2 that I witnessed and 1 fool who nearly found a watery grave off the sandbar out front while strip casting.
By the way, I was just talking with 2 guys on the phone and the spring fishing off the Cap mouth in the chuck has only produced 4 springs in the past 3 days.
Anyways....as for spring fishing off the Fraser...now THAT"S a different story! ;D There's a couple of stinky white springs out there for you guys in the valley coming your way! (I found 'em this morning)
This is bar none, the WORST coho fishery off West Van in YEARS.
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I agree it's the worst year at the Cap/West Van I can recall. But what do you expect when we haven't had any rain in 4 months. The coho/chinooks at the mouth probably took off looking for bait, or starved to death.
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Magician- The point of my post was to explain to small fish why it will take alot of rain to raise the water levels of a dam controlled system.
We will have to wait and see when the dam finally spills if you are right and no coho are coming back to the cap. I would be willing to bet whenever the dam spills a few thousand more coho will come in.
Here's hoping your wrong about there being absolutley no coho...for everyone's sake
Thanks for the clarification
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dear
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Yep this is my fish year trying to fish the cap.
If theres no coho, I will be super pissed off! >:(
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Small fish, you seem so dead set on the cap but I am gonna try to convince you to look elsewhere for now. Head out to the Vedder! If transportation is a problem do what I used to do before I was mobile....get mom or dad to drop you off with a tent at the river for a weekend and fish away! I remember many great trips where I would have nothing but my tent and gear, caught tonnes of fish and had lots of fun.
You could set up camp at Allison Pool or Thurston Meadows...........
You also have another option on the North Shore.... the Seymour do some hiking and you can find some good water there are coho and summer steelies in the river as we speak. Seymour ho's are more aggresive than cap ho's and you will actually have a chance of fair hooking one. Seymour ho's are also much bigger than cap ho's with 15lbs here and there. Put on you hiking boots or grab your mountain bike and explore! Cheack the regs for the Seymour it is heavily regulated!
Concentrate on those systems for now the cap will not be rising for a long time but when it does hit it and you will be amazed it is a different river when the dam is spilling and hopefully there are some fish coming to the system!
Hope you try some of these alternatives and have fun learn some new rivers and even hit some fish!
Good luck,
Pat
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Thanks and yes transportion is a problem for me, and my parents wont let me stay by my self. But seymour sounds good, is it heavily fished, because I dont know much about it. My dad can take me to the veddar only in the summer when he has time, it sucks i know :(
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Small fish the Seymour is not heavily fished. Do an internet search on the Lower Seymour Conservation Reserve and come on up to the park, it is your best bet for accessing the Seymour right now. Stop in at the rice lake info center and ask for me, I am a ranger at the park and will help you out if I am on shift!
Hope to see you up here!
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O ok, I might try it out, Coho are in there? I did'nt know that i just knew that steelies where in that river.
I might try it out first weekend of octerber, because saturday and sunday this weekend im out at victoria for soccer!
Its a long hike in? and is it good shore fishing, or is it fishing off dangorous cliffs like cable pool.
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a few years ago, while vehicle-less, i was so desperate to get to the chilliwack for some steelhead fishing that i hopped the skytrain to the nearest greyhound station, rode the hound out to chilliwack and paid another 10.00 in cab fare to get to the crossing bridge (you can take a regular bus instead from the station to the river). I ended up fishing most of that day with some success , stayed in a cheapo motel for the night and did it all again the next day. It just depends how bad you want it hehehehe ;D
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Not that desperate lol, but good thinking ::)
Yeah i guess I was releying to much on the cap for this year and it has completety destroyed my outings, since rain wont be coming for at least another week :(
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even if the rain comes and comes heavy you won't see the level of the Cap come up!!! the resevoir is very low and it would take a month of straight rain to fill it at this point, I honestly think it will be November before you see the water rise in the Cap and by that point the coho will be ready to make boots with :)
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I remember a few years back, the dam didn't open it's gates till late October and most of the fish that made it up to the hatchery were already dark, that totally sucked!
And its not looking much better for the next two weeks. Only a smattering of rain potentially on that day http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/14day/pages/CABC0205.htm Lets hope something changes as I do not want a dry fall.
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Watched the News Hour this evening, and they are forecasting an El Nino type winter - drier and warmer than usual. Hope they are wrong, we need the wet stuff.
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I hope they're wrong too, I want to fish and hit the mountains for snowboarding
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Hey small fish whats ur first name? I know the cap sucks right now, and it has for the past few years! >:( No water so they don't open the damn! A piece of dynamite might do us well? Just joking ;D We need like 2 weeks of steady rain, then the springs and cohos will be in, right now if u take a boat out past the mouth u see huge schools just under the surface! Did last week! Stupid city damn operatives, let the fish get up the freiken river! Thats all i have to say for now!
Good fishing to yah!
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Hey small fish whats ur first name? I know the cap sucks right now, and it has for the past few years! >:( No water so they don't open the damn! A piece of dynamite might do us well? Just joking ;D We need like 2 weeks of steady rain, then the springs and cohos will be in, right now if u take a boat out past the mouth u see huge schools just under the surface! Did last week! Stupid city damn operatives, let the fish get up the freiken river! Thats all i have to say for now!
Good fishing to yah!
:o That's rather interesting. Huge schools? :o Coulda fooled me. Coulda fooled the 15 Charter boats in the chuck out there fishing for 'em on a daily basis--not finding any. Could fooled the guys flyfishing and casting for them at low tide--who aren't finding any. Coulda fooled the Natives who are snagging 25% of normal.
Huge schools? Wow...like I must be blind. 8)
If any of you forum readers believe that report---you probably believe in "Fish of Dreams"--"If you dream of fish, they come". LOL.
Honestly Younggun, can you come on out and show us these huge schools? Better yet, why weren't you hauling 'em in?
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Huge schools....coulda fooled me too. Been fishing the beaches and its barren barren barren. Unless theyre REALLY late, I dont think there is much hope for this years cap coho run.
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i'll add my 2 cents on the coho report as well. Last week a friend who flycasts near the stearman beach and dundarave area did see a (very) few coho jumpers, for a short time in the early mornin but didn't get a sniff. I have also been contacting several charters and 5 or 6 sporties I know and the consensus is...... the coho are NOT there...... yet.
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i hooked 4 and went home, so to contredict u i think u should get some glasses!
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i hooked 4 and went home, so to contredict u i think u should get some glasses!
Really? Like good work then. You're the only guy to limit out on Cohoes off West Van in months--and you probably hooked more Cohos than were caught in the whole month of September by everyone fishing the area--probably August too. I spoke to one guy doing a Creel Survey and he said he hasn't seen a Coho hauled out of there in quite some time.
What technique were you using? Lures? Anchovies? Bait? Trolling? Mooching? Do tell the details.
Better yet, got any pics? (not that I'm asking for proof---would be nice too see them though!)
I know 6 of the boats out there last night and there were 8 springs landed. No Cohoes except for the odd jumper that was seen.
Do spread the news!
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I was planning to go to the capp river this sunday, but from what I heard no coho what so ever,
And I really dought anyone can land a coho from shore on the river with these types of conditions, and having being no coho what so ever in the river.I wonder how you managed to land 4? (unless you were on a boat) So my and my buddy are taking are bikes and heading to a local lake sunday :)
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hey younggun nice name lol ...how far up were yoou wen you caght these fish, was there last weekend didnt see many fish
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reports first hand from capilano hatchery staff also support the "serious lack of coho" in and outside of the capilano system. Let's cross our fingers that these fish are running late like many of thier kind all up and down the west coast.