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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: sliverbullet on October 04, 2006, 02:53:43 PM
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just wondering which one of the two you guys prefer ??
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Well I bought 3 stealth floats and all have broke, Have never lost one but they all just broke, On 2 of them theres a hole in the top and water comes in, and the other one I casted and hit a rock and the top piece snapped off. Think im gonna switch to DNE
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Drennan ;D
There expensive but if you don't snag up much you don't lose many.
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I have both. The DNE appears to be better made. The Stealth is too big IMO. My preference is the DNE
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Wow, that sucks about the stealths...was gonna put them in for a test but I guess ill stay with the DNE's..I will admit i like how they seem much softer on landing and float very well...
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Well I bought 3 stealth floats and all have broke, Have never lost one but they all just broke, On 2 of them theres a hole in the top and water comes in, and the other one I casted and hit a rock and the top piece snapped off. Think im gonna switch to DNE
If they was a hole in the top of them you should return them for a replacement. For hitting a rock and it broke that is not the float's fault, it was your casting ability. ;D ;D
I have used mine on several trips this season and they are performing well but then with the Maple Leaf logo on what would you expect. ;D ;D ;D
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Well I bought 3 stealth floats and all have broke, Have never lost one but they all just broke, On 2 of them theres a hole in the top and water comes in, and the other one I casted and hit a rock and the top piece snapped off. Think im gonna switch to DNE
If they was a hole in the top of them you should return them for a replacement. For hitting a rock and it broke that is not the float's fault, it was your casting ability. ;D ;D
I have used mine on several trips this season and they are performing well but then with the Maple Leaf logo on what would you expect. ;D ;D ;D
I barely hit the rock, :-[
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I have not tried the DNE but going to give them a shot this weekend. I like the Stealth as I tested it out last Sunday. The only issue I had with it was the splash it made in the water. Seems to big and bulky. The one thing I really like about it is how it is easy to control during a drift.
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DNE!! ;)
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I like the stealth for clear water, for sure, cheeper then drennans. I resently bought 2 dne float, tried them hlaf a day and hit freds to buy 6 more I relly really like them. I prefer the pink top, but freds had bright yellow and green only in the 30grams.
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Hello Roe Kid
Please return the two floats with the holes in the tops back to the dealer where you purchased them we will replace them no problem as this hole is a defect. Fortunately this has been a minimal problem and the overwhelming majority of our floats have proved to be very durable for a clear plastic float. As for as bouncing them off rocks is concerned they will usually survive this as well but every thing has their limits.
BB2000 don’t understand the splash issue. Personally I found them to splash much less than any regular foam float; maybe you are overpowering your cast with those big guns. The overall length does take some getting use to however if you look at the main body with out the collar ends the size is the same as a Drennen #3 the added length comes from the collar ends.
Btw send in some pictures for some free floats! Still looking for a winner for the 10 free floats.
Fish with Stealth
SFT
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hmm i found that the dne sits better in faster water i like the stealth for low and clear water
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i used a 35gram dne and hated the way it sat, found a stealth float floating around all lonely ;D put it on and wow did it sit nice.
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I have to say after using both DNE and Stealth floats over the last few outings that I prefer the Stealth Floats !!
they look huge but they sit nicely in the water without a lot of weight, I found the Dne floats have a tendancy to lie on their side when they travel through rougher water whilt the Stealth stands nice and straight, I also liike the way they are fixed to your mainline, simple but effective !! I will probalby be fishing with stealth from now on !! :) Plus the only Hatchery Coho I have caught this year came while I had a Stealth Float on :)
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I found the Dne floats have a tendancy to lie on their side when they travel through rougher water
Might want to shorten up on the float, Rick. ;D
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i have both. i find the dne easier to use, more durable and has a more stable drift. also i find the seams of the stealths to be too sharp at times. punishing my 12 lb main line when i adjust the depth.
last thing is the price of the dne is half of the stealth.
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The Stealth looks good and works well. Have not tried DNE. I thought it is a foam float. How do you compare a clear plastic to a foam float? We pay $ for a float to be transparent to the fish, otherwise why paid $7 for a Drennan?
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i've now tried both the dne and the stealth. I will stick with a standard foam float for salmon fishing but when this years steelhead season gets under way, Stealth with be my float of choice, hands down. Nice product..... and yes, we sell them here at Steveston Marine. Have not had a representative from Dne contact me so we do not as of yet carry thier product.
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The Stealth looks good and works well. Have not tried DNE. I thought it is a foam float. How do you compare a clear plastic to a foam float? We pay $ for a float to be transparent to the fish, otherwise why paid $7 for a Drennan?
ok. if you want to compare apples to apples, why would anyone pay $7 for a clear float, when you can $3.99 ? well, i quess one reason may be the lack of selection of the latter.
i think its more personal preference over anything else. i've heard people swear they've caught more steelies using balsa floats over clear plastic floats and vise versa. i've also heard some people say they use nothing but dink floats and have had great success.
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ya know....when it comes to steelhead, it has nothing to do with the float, it's all in how yer holdin yer jaw and .... what yer smokin for breakfast hehehehe ;D
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Ive tried both and i find the DNE to work well for me especially the balsa's they ride nice in the water :)
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You guys drift fishing in the clear low Vedder is just as bad as bottom bouncing the Fraser. Quit that justafiable snagging business and turn to fly fishing. This river will soon be flyfishing only because of these snagging efforts using clear type floats.
Get with it guys - give your fly-line a shake.
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rieber..... not trying to rattle your cage, but that statement is just plain ridiculous. Yes, there are those who snag fish but presenting a blade or a real bait under a float in clear water conditions is in my opinion FAR better than swinging a fly, that technique is just another form of flossing. I know because i've flyfished many rivers for salmon steelhead and trout. Maybe if you are making short casts with your flyline and stripping you MAY avoid flossing, but I'll tell you this, I've accidentally snagged/flossed more salmon with river fly gear than i ever have with float gear. Statements like yours will only draw the ire of ethical anglers who do everything in thier power to not snag/floss fish, and makes you look like a dumbass. And no I'm not saying you are a dumbass, but You've been around this site long enough to know better, my comments are not a stab at you.
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Have you ever seen flyfishers flossing or foul hooking those poor pinks by the tons when the flyfishers strip their long leader through the run to target the few coho? :D :D :D
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zoom, zoom, zoom - you guys are too easy to hook and wind up. :D
I've tried the clear floats and I think they work great under cloudy conditions. In sunny conditions I see the floats throwing a bright reflection. Surely this must spook fish.
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home made balsa floats work well, they look like a stick in the river, quite a common site, so wheather its murky or clear the fish dont care!
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I can't believe you guys couldn't read the sarcasm in Reiber's post lol ::)
Reiber you fly snagger !!!! ;D
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Yesterday i picked up 2 free stealth floats at the river :D,both stealth floats had no rubber tube on it,so i guess somebody lost it while playing with those big springs or chums .
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Those rubber sleaves fit pretty snug. Hard to believe they came off.
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We recommend that you cut the tubing in to 1 inch sections this holds the float firmly on the line. If you use shorter sections you will be much more likely to loose the float if you have a break off and them you will have to purchase a new Stealth float...er...um...wait a minute disregard previous instructions and continue using short collar sections...thank you for your support! ;D ;D ;D
Fish with Stealth!
SFT
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i have a question, every time i use my stealth float, moisture and a little bit of water build up on the inside, is this a factory defect? its not cracked at all, i think it may be coming from the top, any one have any problems with theres?
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Yes Most of mine develope a little hole and water goes in them at the top
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i have a question, every time i use my stealth float, moisture and a little bit of water build up on the inside, is this a factory defect? its not cracked at all, i think it may be coming from the top, any one have any problems with theres?
Ditto. Now i am using the DNE float,cheaper and better ;)
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Yes Most of mine develope a little hole and water goes in them at the top
Sounds like a problem with quality control. I've switched over to DNE as well.
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I have herd and seen a far amount of these float devolope a hole in the top. It must have something to do when they do the molding of the float. You will notice a small piece of plastic that falls from the top when the hole developes. Once I saw this I decided to stick to my drennan and also the new dne.
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I still have my 20 gram drennen that got my first steel to till the rest of the year and plan on using it agian ;D
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We have had a few floats from the first batch that the plug in the top that seals the float has let go, if you have this happen to you return it to your dealer and we will replace it no problem. I have also noticed some condensation in a couple of floats after extended use but the float still operates perfectly. Keep in mind as with any plastic clear float be it a Stealth or a Drennan if they get banged around repeatedly they can be broken so a little finesse is required while using them.
Fish with Stealth!
SFT
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We have had a few floats from the first batch that the plug in the top that seals the float has let go, if you have this happen to you return it to your dealer and we will replace it no problem. I have also noticed some condensation in a couple of floats after extended use but the float still operates perfectly. Keep in mind as with any plastic clear float be it a Stealth or a Drennan if they get banged around repeatedly they can be broken so a little finesse is required while using them.
Fish with Stealth!
SFT
I don't want to be mean, but I bought 6 of these, figured I would give them a chance. All six either developed holes, or the orange tip section on top broke rather easily. You say you should fish with finesse to use these floats, well..... To me that is a load of bunk. If you have to set the hook, set it and set it hard. I am not going to miss a fish because I was worried about breaking my float. I shouldn't have to worry about that. That is why I use balsa's and DNE's. I have been using the same DNE float now for 6 trips. It took me 2 trips to go through 6 of your Stealth floats. Every one one of them BROKE. Not very impressive at all.
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I am not going to miss a fish because I was worried about breaking my float. I shouldn't have to worry about that. That is why I use balsa's and DNE's. I have been using the same DNE float now for 6 trips. It took me 2 trips to go through 6 of your Stealth floats. Every one one of them BROKE. Not very impressive at all.
Well said Big Steel,now i switched to DNE and i dont have to worry anything and is way cheaper too ;)
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Since when has it been all about the float. Put time and thinking into reading water, presentation of your bait, lure, fly whatever. It will improve your hookup rate more than any float will.
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Fishfreak
What I was implying is that there seems to be this trend where if you dont have a Drennan or a Steatlh or whatever, you wont catch fish? Whatever happened to the old dink float? I agree, whatever float you are using, it has to rigged and weighted properly. Or if its broken, like Drennans and Stealths seem to do quite frequently, yes you have to change it. Im saying that there are far more important factors than what type of float you are using.
just an opinion, thats all
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I bought one stealth back 3 months ago, and it was crap from the start. It had a hole in the top that would fill with water and you would have to empty it frequently, not sure if this was the case for all. Also It was quite long, and i didnt really like how you had to use more weight to balance it nicely. Honestly I believe the dink float is the best bang for your buck, Its so simple and works nicely. My stealth is now in heavan after popping the hook off a spring, and the stealth smashing its frame on some rocks, Now lets see a dink float do that, nope not happening.
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The D&E Foam floats are way better then your regular dynk Floats and there cheap
how are they "way better"? just curious
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The D&E Foam floats are way better then your regular dynk Floats and there cheap
how are they "way better"? just curious
;D he thinks the DNE floats make him look like a better fisherman !! that's also the reason he fishes with a pin now LMAO !! ;D
All kidding aside I like the DNE floats better than dink floats.. I find they travel mush nicer through the water, you can use a tiny tiny amount of weight and they still sit true, and they make almost no splash when they hit the water.. they are almost the same price as a dink flot so they are all I use now ... I did like the Stealth floats at first but after using them for a few trips I was having troubles with them.. I lost three while I was fighting fish; they just popped off the main line twp others I had just developed holes in them, I am a total DNE convert now!! Great Product !!! :)
TR
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IMO the way the DNE float is designed, it sits better on the water as you drift but you have to have the right weight balance to achieve this.
This is very interesting... I found the complete opposite was true when using the Dne's .. I drifted with 1/2 inch up to 1 1/4 inch with a 25 gram Dne and the float sat true with either weight
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true
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Interesting discussion. My experience has been that I like the Stealth floats better (when they work), but found that the hole in the top made me switch over to the DNE. Although I prefer the design of the Stealth, I will not buy it if it only lasts one or two days fishing - which again has been my experience.
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well..... i know steve is gonna cringe but here is my evaluation, after being given several DNE and Several stealth floats to take out to the rivers and test. I do like the concept of the stealth and the way it fishes, however, i too experienced the "cracking off of the top" on two of the three floats i have. These were not from hitting rocks, but from setting the hook. Comparing apples to apples, I compare the stealth to the drennan, both clear plastic floats. While the stealth is easier and a touch quicker to rig up, I've never seen a drennan break on the strike. I only use the drennan for steelhead, and would switch to stealth, providing the breakage issues were fixed. I do like the stealth product and for a guy who wants to fish a clear plastic float, I would recommend it over a pricey drennan.
Now the DNE, again, when comparing apples to apples is probably the best foam float to come down the pike in a while. I love the way it sits, and especially the way it just disappears when a fish hits, there ain't no question , when that puppy disappears.... set the hook ;D. I would fish a dne over any other foam float for this reason. Many guys will swear there is no differrence between it and the dink (other than price) but ... well... maybe not, they both catch fish. But you won't ever see me with a regular dink when i'm steelhead fishing. I like the "drennan-ish" shape of the dne and i think it gives an edge over the standard dink shape, especially on lite biting fish. Another feature that no other foam float has, the gram rating on the float, especially important to the serious steelhead angler.
So.... for clear plastic floats, I still lean on my more expensive Drennans, BUT, if the stealth boys work the kinks out with the new product, and make them in different sizes, I would reconsider the drennan.
for foam floats..... DNE hands down... I'll never touch another dink float again ... but then again I never really liked dink floats to begin with.
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^ ENUFF WITH THE DINK TALK, SHOULDN'T U B WORKING ? ;) I MYSELF HAVE USED BOTH, HAVENT BROKE A STEALTH YET, AND 4 THE DNE FLOATS.....THE BEST FOAM FLOAT ON THE MARKET HANDS DOWN ! PERFECT SIZE AND WEIGHT !
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I have had the same stealth float for soo long...has done me well.. no holes or anything... its between drennan and stealth for me............have never tried the dne floats. :D
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I've been using same balsa float for over 2 years and never lost it. I tried a Stealth. On my fifth cast the float and I parted ways. Not impressed. :(
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drennan for steelhead and dne for all the other garbage. >:(
Garbage??? ::)
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Fish are not garbage!!! They are a beautiful species!
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Fished strictly drennes this seasson they are just the best, i also lost one :( it was a very sad momment on the flow untill i rigged up my other one. ;D
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drennan zepplers, torpedo shaped balsa and green dink floats for me. I tried the DNEs and they are definately more sensitive than a dink float but I have more confidence with drennans and balsas because IMO they are less obtrusive, and for me dink floats still have their place for fast deep flows where more weight is required to get down to the zone and float visibility is less of an issue. Cost is not a factor for me because I don't lose my floats often.