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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing Reports => Members' Fishing Reports => Topic started by: Rodney on September 24, 2008, 03:51:46 PM
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After seeing a couple of solid reports on coho catches from the Chilliwack River, it was time for us to venture out this morning. The alarm went off at 4:00am and it only took one buzz before I hopped out of bed despite of only three hours of sleep. ;D The first outing is always quite exciting as there are so many unknowns. We met up with Chris and Gwyn at 6:15am, just as it was becoming light. We worked out way through the bush to the Rotary Trail and startled a group of female runners as we popped out. They probably thought that they were about to encounter a family of bears. :o
Water condition was fantastic as previous days. The first spot looked promising but after drifting through it for 30 minutes at first light, we came up empty handed except the tree that Nina hooked, which resulted in a lost Drennan. :'( We decided to make our way to another spot. Gwyn's dog Jackson's reaction did not seem like a good prediction for the rest of the trip. :-\
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The second spot also looked promising. The narrow run was deep and flowing slowly, with a few branches acting as fish's cover. Upon our arrival, a rather bright chinook leaped at the tailout, which was a good sign. :) Chris reminded us that the bites actually did not happen until 8:00am or 9:00am during his previous outings this week, so we were hopeful.
The conversation among the group kept everyone entertained when the bites were absent. As we joked around, I spotted a couple of light dips on my Drennan. Thinking that it was a trout, I ignored them. Chris thought otherwise, he said those chinook salmon he caught previously had bitten quite lightly. A few drifts later, I missed another stronger dip, which was definitely a salmon. I rebaited with fresh roe and concentrated on the drifts. A few more casts later, the float dipped once again and the hook-set was right on the mark this time. The large bend in the 2106 suggested that it was a good sized chinook salmon. It surfaced briefly just downstream from Gwyn and he confirmed that it was an adult chinook. I managed to keep it in the run instead of letting it tow me downstream like many adult chinook would do. A few minutes later, I had a female chinook salmon, estimated to be between 10 and 15lb on the beach.
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It was not the brightest chinook that I have caught on the Vedder, but it was not awfully dark either so we decided to keep it.
The bites appeared to be coming on. Chris soon missed several as we chatted. He was disgusted everytime when the DNE float flew back to the beach.
Seeing that the bite was on, Nina took over the rod from me, I baited her hook with another chunk of beautifully cured coho roe from last year. We watched the float closely as it drifted into the strike zone each time. Finally it sank solidly beside one branch. I yelled, "Set the hook" and even did the hook-set motion with my hands, but the rod was not moving. ::) By the time she yanked the rod, it was two seconds too late.
I rebaited her hook. A few drifts later, it went down again at the same spot. This time the hook-set was also slightly delayed, but the fish did not get away. :P The leap just seconds after the hook-set confirmed that it was a rather fresh chum salmon. Nina put the pressure on the rod, pointing the rod sideway as I told her to so the fish would swim back up as demanded. After tugging back and forth for several minutes, it finally gave up in the shallows. Nina had landed her first ever chum salmon.
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A trip to the Vedder is never complete without a clown show. ;) Seeing that the bites were coming from beyond the branches on the other side of the run, Chris decided to make a longer cast. Of course, the main line was caught up with the branch. ::) He could still feed line to the float, so the main line seemed to be lightly tangled to the branch. Chris decided to yank the rod up and down, to see if he could free it. He did it so hard that the top section of his Sage popped off and slid down the main line toward the branch. :o Suddenly he realized that he just might lose more than his float! :o Gwyn came to the rescue, by casting out to hook up his top section. After several attempts, he finally got it back. Now Gwyn decided to rescue the float too, so he casted out to catch it while Chris freely fed line so it could be retrieved. After five minutes of commotion, all terminal tackle was saved. :P
We ended the outing at 9:30am. Today only the clients were successful. The two guides had to go home empty-handed. After all, isn't their job to put fish on the clients' lines before theirs? ;D
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A fall salmon trip to the Vedder always ends with a brunch at Cookies.
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Thanks for the report Rod. Sure wish I did'nt have to work like you guys :) because I'm chomping at the bit to get out. Oh well Saturdays only a couple of days away and then, rain or shine its time to toss a line. Thanks again for the update. ;D
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Fairly bright chum Nina, congrates.
Steve
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A few minutes later, I had a female chinook salmon, estimated to be between 10 and 15lb on the beach.
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It was not the brightest chinook that I have caught on the Vedder, but it was not awfully dark either so we decided to keep it.
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Hmmmm... me spidey senses tell me that there is a reason for this... but hey thats OK!!!.... you can be my supplier this year!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Shane
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Hmmmm... me spidey senses tell me that there is a reason for this... but hey thats OK!!!.... you can be my supplier this year!!!! ;D ;D ;D
Shane
[/quote] You can catch your own fsh to eat!!!! ;D ;D
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Nice job rod...... I think i saw you guys from afar..... didnt have a bad day either..landed a 3 adults (all released), a jack, and a small ho.....clarity was ideal! here's a couple pic
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all in all a good day....
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I am sitting in my hotel room in downtown Tornoto to awake sleep with the time change. I decide to log onto the reports to see how you boys and girls mode out on the Vedder today. Sure enough it seems the fishing is picking up which depresses me so far away. I know I will be day dreaming tomorrow in meetings of being on the river. Well, I will be flying back Friday and will have to set my alarm to hit the river early Saturday morning.
We are lucky to to live in such a great part of the world! Best of luck to all for the remainder of the week.
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I see enough maple leaf floats pass me on the river ::) but a maple leaf rod would be nice ;D
Looks like you got your roe supply for the season already.
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.....(http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm360/mmmroe/jennandpauloswedding037.jpg?t=1222307926)....
Is that a coho?? ??? ???
Shane
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.....(http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm360/mmmroe/jennandpauloswedding037.jpg?t=1222307926)....
Is that a coho?? ??? ???
Shane
isnt that a sockeye? ???
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.....(http://i316.photobucket.com/albums/mm360/mmmroe/jennandpauloswedding037.jpg?t=1222307926)....
Is that a coho?? ??? ???
Shane
isnt that a sockeye? ???
Yeah
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Shame too because it detracts from Rod's fishing trip. But it sure looks like a sockeye, and if it is it does raise some pointed ethical questions.
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There is no doubt that is a sockeye, those poor fish don't stand a chance, they won't be around much longer. I feel for the fellow that posted the picture here but maybe this will sereve as a lesson to all fishers new and experienced to PAY ATTENTION.
BTW, nice report Rod, sounds like a nice day out there.
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Shame too because it detracts from Rod's fishing trip.
Thanks D, Nina's bummed that no one is talking about her first ever chum salmon. ;D
When mmmroe posted the photo up, a few of us discussed it among ourselves about how we should handle this thread as we noticed that it is a Cultus Lake clipped sockeye salmon. I decided to leave it up, not to put mmmroe on the spot, but to leave it as another reminder that adipose fin-clipped Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are also in the Chilliwack/Vedder River system right now. The reasoning for having these particular population of hatchery enhanced sockeye salmon clipped is so they could be distinguished from others when travelling in the Fraser River. Cultus Lake sockeye salmon are endangered and many different projects are ongoing to assist the rebound of their population.
Here is some more information for those who are unaware of this or who are interested to learn more:
http://www.fishingwithrod.com/fishy_news/070917_1.html
By leaving up his post, we also risk having the same individuals on the forum attacking the individual instead of contributing constructively so we can make some positive changes. Yes, it is an unfortunate mistake, but everyone makes them at some point of his or her fishing career. What would be more terrible is when they do not learn from the mistakes. One should stay humble when conducting themselves in public, because otherwise when we become the ones making the mistake, it would only look much worse.
Anyway, those who choose to conduct themselves that way will continue to do so, therefore no more preaching is needed. ;) If it persists, we'll just start deleting the posts and bring the topic back on track. ;D
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Some people enjoy reading reports with pictures? Haha Poster boys for internet success from posting a fishing pic? Im sure the threads going to get toast but this shouldnt scare people from posting pics.
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that is disgusting, if you cant tell thats not a coho you shouldnt be fishing. that run is in poor shape as it is, good job hero.
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Very nice chum Nina :)
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Even though the fishing trip was short today, the day was dragged on until... now. :o The drive home took much longer than anticipated (I was in such a hurry to get home to post photos of course. Heroism and all ;) ). A truck jackknifed the medium on Hwy 91 so we were stuck for quite awhile.
Once home, I sat on the couch, only to realize that I had a white spring in the cooler that needed to be cleaned and processed. :-\ I pulled myself up from the couch at 4:00pm, started gutting, filleting, skinning, cutting... Once done, the kitchen needed to be scrubbed, scrubbed and scrubbed. A trip to the grocery store and back, the entire room still smelled like a white spring! Anyway, the result was well worth it.
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I deboned the fillets and cut them into strips.
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The strips were then seasoned with salt, pepper and other spices.
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A batter was made from water and flour. Strips were dipped in the batter before going on the hot oil.
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A couple minutes later, strips were turned when the side turned golden brown.
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Dinner!
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Very nice chum Nina :)
lol ;D
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It was a fun morning being on the Vedder with Rodney, Nina, Gwyn and Jackson. That is what fishing is about, angling with good fishing partners and seeing them catching fish even when you cannot hook one, even when offered several chances. ::) Nearly losing half of my rod did not help either ::), the bloopesr of all bloopers, I am glad Rod did not have his video camera running. ;D
Tomorrow will be different as I will have the run all to myself and face no competion for the fish that will be there. ;D ;D ;D
Good fish Nina, you played it well, a fresh run chum can give one a good tussle.
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That chum is almost as nice as those of Squamish R. Did you keep the chum? How's it's flesh condition?
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I just wanted to say what an idiot I am.....A fellow next to me landed it and stated it was a hatch coho....and beach it...Its still my fault for having part in misidentifying that fish..... :-\ :-\....stupid lesson learn :-\ :'(
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Nice report guys! I've been avoiding the cheddar like the plague, but I will hit it this weekend, as I have to get my truck serviced Saturday morning... Time to take a nice long walk.
Too bad about the sockeye, the fellow probably saw the adipose clip and thought it was okay... I'm sure it was an honest mistake.
Dave Barnes mentioned the adipose clip had better survival rates, but I think this case calls that research into question...
Cheers,
Nicole
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I deboned the fillets and cut them into strips.
These cuts look almost like sashimi from a Japanese restaurant. Yum...
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That chum is almost as nice as those of Squamish R. Did you keep the chum? How's it's flesh condition?
We gave the fish to Gwyn before we parted. It was in reasonable shape for the Chilliwack, but not up to my Squamish standard. ;D I'm sure the flesh is very good.
These cuts look almost like sashimi from a Japanese restaurant. Yum...
Tee, when I was cutting those up, I thought, "These look almost like tuna sashimi." I then leaned forward, took a sniff, and changed my mind. ;D
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I just wanted to say what an idiot I am.....A fellow next to me landed it and stated it was a hatch coho....and beach it...Its still my fault for having part in misidentifying that fish..... :-\ :-\....stupid lesson learn :-\ :'(
And other will learn from it too, it takes a big person to admit when one makes a mistake and does not just go away and hides. I have made stupid mistakes in my 65 years of life as I am sure many others have too, if you have not you are to be congratulated.
I feel no further negative comments are needed on this matter.
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I just wanted to say what an idiot I am.....A fellow next to me landed it and stated it was a hatch coho....and beach it...Its still my fault for having part in misidentifying that fish..... :-\ :-\....stupid lesson learn :-\ :'(
We are all human and make mistakes, particularly inadvertant ones. The post probably will end up saving the next clipped sockeye because now we all know even sockeyes have clipped adipose fin. I am sure all FWR members reading this post will look hard at the entire fish, not just that missing fin. ;D So don't be too harsh on yourself, mmmroe. It is very courageous of you to take responsibility for an honest mistake.
Rodney, you sure know how to cook your fish. Can you tell me what that yellowish spice is? That recipe of yours and the finished product surely make me hungry. Thanks.
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I just wanted to say what an idiot I am.....A fellow next to me landed it and stated it was a hatch coho....and beach it...Its still my fault for having part in misidentifying that fish..... :-\ :-\....stupid lesson learn :-\ :'(
And other will learn from it too, it takes a big person to admit when one makes a mistake and does not just go away and hides. I have made stupid mistakes in my 65 years of life as I am sure many others have too, if you have not you are to be congratulated.
I feel no furher negative comments are needed on this manner.
Well said Chris.
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Congrats on the chum Nina! That's quite a clean looking chum for the Vedder - and I'm sure you got some nice roe too.
...and Rod - those white spring fillets look delish! Thanks for posting the recipe! I'll keep a note of that one.
On another note, I kept a chrome bullet spring last w/e and it turned out great on the bbq. The fish was bullet chrome and had sea lice on it. There was no hint of "whitie odour/taste" in the flesh. It tasted pretty much like a red, and I probably wouldn't notice a difference if I was blindfolded. Not sure if I just got lucky or not. I've got plenty of nice fillets in the freezer and would like to try Rod's recipe! :D
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I just wanted to say what an idiot I am.....A fellow next to me landed it and stated it was a hatch coho....and beach it...Its still my fault for having part in misidentifying that fish..... :-\ :-\....stupid lesson learn :-\ :'(
And other will learn from it too, it takes a big person to admit when one makes a mistake and does not just go away and hides. I have made stupid mistakes in my 65 years of life as I am sure many others have too, if you have not you are to be congratulated.
I feel no furher negative comments are needed on this manner.
thank you
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that is disgusting, if you cant tell thats not a coho you shouldnt be fishing. that run is in poor shape as it is, good job hero.
Gotta give the guy a break, don't be so harsh? When I first started fishing i studied the differences amongst salmon for the longest time, yet I still got confused between jacks and cohos. =/
I've done stupid stuff I'm only 18 but hey I learn.. This guy learned and now he can spread that knowledge to others who may not know better.. chill out and go fish =]
Nice report.. I might be going out this sunday for my first trip in a couple of years. looking forward to it!
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I deboned the fillets and cut them into strips.
These cuts look almost like sashimi from a Japanese restaurant. Yum...
That's artwork!
It will take me a lot more practise to fillet fish like that.
Good job
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i aswell was on the water, i had a good day, busted off some big fish, first time for springs with the centerpin, way to much fun! Managed to land a little buck, that was sent on his way.
dark buck that was released
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ARGH!!!!!! this thread is making me wana buy a ticket back to canada today! im stuck here in London trying to catch some muddy carp :( Nice fish everyone keep up the good work.
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We really need to have some sort of "testing" before getting a fishing license. This morning I walked up to take a look at some guys fish, and one was a wild coho. I let the guy know that you cannot retain wild coho, but all I got back from him was another language, couldnt do nothing so walked away. Not sure if the guy did not know the regulations, couldnt identify his fish, or just didnt care. We also need some conservation officers, or some rcmp patrolling near the river, to watch for break in activity, and to charge poachers.
Im sure mmmmroe sockeye, is just one of a few cultus lake sockeye kept due to misidentification, but just a few is a huge impact to this lake run. We need a better way to inform others before fishing.
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We are all human and make mistakes, particularly inadvertant ones. The post probably will end up saving the next clipped sockeye because now we all know even sockeyes have clipped adipose fin. I am sure all FWR members reading this post will look hard at the entire fish, not just that missing fin. ;D So don't be too harsh on yourself, mmmroe. It is very courageous of you to take responsibility for an honest mistake.
^^^QFT.
Great fish you caught there, Rod...
And Nina - that's a great looking chum, especially for the Vedder!
I know some people think chum are ugly, but I think those colours and stripes are beautiful...
Hey Rod - any tips for cleaning/cooking a white spring?
I've cooked up a few in the past, and generally they've been quite good, but I'm always looking for new techniques.
Cheers!
:D
Tex
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Hey Rod - any tips for cleaning/cooking a white spring?
That was in fact the first white chinook salmon from the Vedder (or anywhere actually) that I have kept. I basically cleaned it like I would with a chum, except this was a bit bigger so messier. Once the fish is gutted, the head is cut off, then the body of the fish is filleted. The pectoral and pelvic fins are removed from the fillets, followed by skinning from the tail end. The skin-less fillets are then deboned if preferred and cut into strips like the photos that I have posted.
For cooking, we don't do anything fancy. Everyone surely has his or her own recipe for batter. I simply mix flour and cold water together. Different spices are added to the strips in advance (again, personal preference when it comes to what spices). The seasoned strips are coated with the batter by dipping before entering the hot oil. The cooking time is short, as long as the strips are thin. Once each side turns golden brown, they are ready for serving.
This morning I walked up to take a look at some guys fish, and one was a wild coho.
1-877-952-RAPP (7277)
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that is disgusting, if you cant tell thats not a coho you shouldnt be fishing. that run is in poor shape as it is, good job hero.
Gotta give the guy a break, don't be so harsh? When I first started fishing i studied the differences amongst salmon for the longest time, yet I still got confused between jacks and cohos. =/
I've done stupid stuff I'm only 18 but hey I learn.. This guy learned and now he can spread that knowledge to others who may not know better.. chill out and go fish =]
Nice report.. I might be going out this sunday for my first trip in a couple of years. looking forward to it!
GIVE HIM A BREAK? the run is near endangered and if it reaches that list then the river will be shut down, there are very few of them around, stuff like this ruins it for the rest of us, he broke the law by killing that why would i give him a break?
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Instead of going the guy a hard time why don't you provide some advice on how to tell the difference between a Sockeye and a Coho since it sounds like you have never ever had a problem identifying fish in your time fishing.
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you know what i dont have a hard time identifying the fish i catch because i know what they are.. for starters sockeye dont have spots, coho will usually have spots on there backs and mainly on the upper portion of the tail.... they also have white gums whereas springs have black and spots all over the tail.
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I tend to agree with Kingpin. UNLESS this is some 12-14 year old kid. The difference between a coho and sockeye is so obvious. If you are unsure of a fish than let it go instead of killing it.
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GIVE HIM A BREAK? the run is near endangered and if it reaches that list then the river will be shut down, there are very few of them around, stuff like this ruins it for the rest of us, he broke the law by killing that why would i give him a break?
Yes, judging by most of your previous posts (a couple of them were warned), it is just so obvious that your primary intention is to ensure the welfare of the fishery. ;D ::)
Perhaps allocate some of that dedication and effort on educating the agency that manages our endangered resources.
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species-especes/species/fullSize_chinooksalmon_3_e.asp
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/reg2007.jpg)
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GIVE HIM A BREAK? the run is near endangered and if it reaches that list then the river will be shut down, there are very few of them around, stuff like this ruins it for the rest of us, he broke the law by killing that why would i give him a break?
Yes, judging by most of your previous posts (a couple of them were warned), it is just so obvious that your primary intention is to ensure the welfare of the fishery. ;D ::)
Perhaps allocate some of that dedication and effort on educating the agency that manages our endangered resources.
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species-especes/species/fullSize_chinooksalmon_3_e.asp
(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/reg2007.jpg)
beeko begone
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Good thing I did not reserve an expectation of a serious response.
Anyway, glad that most have enjoyed the story. This would also be a good opportunity to remind everyone that this coming Sunday (September 28th) is World Rivers Day and we will have a big celebration in Chilliwack. The day will kick off with a Chilliwack River cleanup (sign-up is between 8:30am and 9:30am at the Chilliwack Fish and Game Club). The cleanup will happen until noon. After the cleanup, there will be a BBQ for everyone, plus entertainment and prize draws. There'll be donuts, muffins, coffee and juice for everyone before we start the cleanup. There will be many fishing related prizes that we are giving away (including some fishing rods).
This is also a great opportunity to meet those who work behind the scene in the Chilliwack River fisheries. Both DFO and BC Ministry of Environment will be on site to answer your questions (questions like Cultus Lake sockeye salmon). I'll have many fish posters to give away to kids. Some regular forum contributors will be at the event too, so it's an opportunity to meet others who you have interacted with via the internet. Come fishing at first light for a couple of hours, help us to clean up the river, eat a good meal, meet some new friends, possibly win a fishing rod, then resume fishing in the afternoon. It cannot get much better for a Sunday outing.
The Chilliwack Fish and Game Club is on Chilliwack Lake Road. Travel toward Tamahi from the Vedder Crossing. It's on your left just after Thompson Park.
Complete information can be found at: http://www.cleanrivers.ca/events.html
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I'm definitely going to be trying to make it out, Rod, but have a prior commitment in the morning that I don't think I can juggle. Most likely will be seeing anyone who's still around in the afternoon though!
:D
Tex
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Sounds like you guys had a good morning! Glad to hear that Chris was his usual entertaining self! :D The pictures of your fried fish look so yummy!!!!! We haven't had that for ages. Buckeye really needs to quit work and go fishing. lol, maybe that will happen when the house beside us is done, and the driveway is poured, and the retaining walls are built, and the yard is landscaped, and the next plan has been picked out, and..... yeah...you get the drift....
Good to see you again Nina, even if its only on pictures. ;D
your breakfast looks good too, breakfast north american style!
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(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/reg2007.jpg)
You know what is really awesome about this picture? They show a pink salmon where the steelhead descriptor is... Simply mind boggling!!!
Shaking head in disgust.
Nicole
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http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species-especes/species/fullSize_chinooksalmon_3_e.asp
And even better, this link shows a coho in place of a chinook!!!!
::)
Nicole
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http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species-especes/species/fullSize_chinooksalmon_3_e.asp
And even better, this link shows a coho in place of a chinook!!!!
::)
Nicole
They really should check their website more closely than that. Should anyone bonk a cherry red wild coho on the Vedder, all they need to do is to reference that page and the ticket could be dropped.
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http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/species-especes/species/fullSize_chinooksalmon_3_e.asp
And even better, this link shows a coho in place of a chinook!!!!
::)
Nicole
wow !
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No wonder some people get confused on the identification of fish
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That was in fact the first white chinook salmon from the Vedder (or anywhere actually) that I have kept. I basically cleaned it like I would with a chum, except this was a bit bigger so messier. Once the fish is gutted, the head is cut off, then the body of the fish is filleted. The pectoral and pelvic fins are removed from the fillets, followed by skinning from the tail end. The skin-less fillets are then deboned if preferred and cut into strips like the photos that I have posted.
For cooking, we don't do anything fancy. Everyone surely has his or her own recipe for batter. I simply mix flour and cold water together. Different spices are added to the strips in advance (again, personal preference when it comes to what spices). The seasoned strips are coated with the batter by dipping before entering the hot oil. The cooking time is short, as long as the strips are thin. Once each side turns golden brown, they are ready for serving.
This morning I walked up to take a look at some guys fish, and one was a wild coho.
1-877-952-RAPP (7277)
did it taste pretty much the same as a red spring, or did you find the flavour to be a bit more 'fishier'?
nice looking flesh on it though...
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I didn't think it was fishier. We prepared it differently to how we would prepare a red chinook salmon, so it is hard to make a comparison. I've enjoyed eating both.
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I kept this chrome bullet from a week ago. Cooked up a fillet on the bbq and it tasted very similar to red spring. If there was a difference, it may have been psychological since you can see the white meat. However, I sure like Rodney's idea of cooking! :D
(http://photos-730.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-sf2p/v338/128/42/637281730/n637281730_974095_9634.jpg)
So - my guess is that chrome bullet whities are fine... ;)
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(http://www.fishingwithrod.com/albums/album34/reg2007.jpg)
You know what is really awesome about this picture? They show a pink salmon where the steelhead descriptor is... Simply mind boggling!!!
Shaking head in disgust.
Nicole
You know I always wondered about this pic of Steelhead.
There is lot of literature out there that shows this picture as being Steelhead.
A.
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here are the correct definitions:
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Species/salmon_default_e.htm
http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/recfish/Species/trout_e.htm
The graphic designer in the guide this year messed it up...
Cheers,
Nicole
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And DFO didn't even bother to proof read. :-[
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MMMRoe, dont feel to bad.... you arnt the only one that makes these mistakes :-\
Found this one dead on Sunday.... PLEASE, make sure you know what your catch is BEFORE you kill it and throw it to the seagulls..... >:(
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg25/fishing_in_summer/IMG_0701.jpg)
Should mention this pic was taken well above sweltzer creek, so watch for them even if you are fishing upriver, even around tamahi.
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I saw gulls ripping one to pieces 3 weeks ago also above Sweltzer creek, it was a sockeye.
Maybe people a catching them or maybe they are dying of other causes.
It's hard to tell.
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Wow some pretty heavy stuff, I personally think that someone made a.. mistake.. here, or he wouldn't of posted the picture. Our job here is not to slander him but to help him along in his education of the sport we all love and care for. We can turn him off or help him along and one day he may educate someone else. Thats what our waters need. I think some people are missing the big picture here, just wanting to tear a stripe off of someone. ( It's pretty easy thing to do when your sittin on a computer)
Hopefully our friend has learnt something and can one day teach someone else. My 0.02
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It is our job as anglers to know the difference between species, and as far as I am concerned if you cannot commit yourself to becoming knowledgeable about this... You should not be fishing.
Back 20 years ago when I was fishing in Europe there was no licensing and it didn't really matter what you were fishing or how many you caught.
Or if you had 16 hooks on you line, or if you had barbless hooks or spears.
Don't know if the rules changes since then. But...
You have to be open to the idea that some people who are starting out will be fishing and not knowing the species and will not know that they need to have a license and will not know that there are limits.
Licensing and quotas are only standard in places where the resource is abused and depleted.
It would be more useful to make contact with these people on the rivers that you fish, talk to them and educate them.
People want to be good and play by the rules if given a chance.
Local knowledge is most important.
On the other hand there are people who are intentionally breaking the rules and have done so forever.
Those are the ones that should pay for the mistakes of their forefathers...
One thing that worries me is that if you are a new fisherman, and you come to the Vedder to learn how to fish and see all those flossers and snaggers, you might think that's how its done.