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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2015, 08:40:15 AM »

Some people have light brown hair, others blonde.
Why should a slight varience in fish be any different.
Just a different set of dominant genes.
Another hundred years of pollution and they'll have 3 eyes.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2015, 09:18:22 AM »

A late season "bronze" coho with tons of spots on its tail.


That's a lot of spots.
I bet that doe gets bonked by quite a few thinking its a Chinook.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2015, 09:36:06 AM »

That's a lot of spots.
I bet that doe gets bonked by quite a few thinking its a Chinook.
I imagine if it was fresher the spots wouldn't have been as distinctive.
I was steelhead fishing in January when I caught (and released) it. I didn't notice the spots on the bottom half of the tail until I looked at the pics later.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2015, 06:02:02 PM »

A late season "bronze" coho with tons of spots on its tail.


That's a lot of spots.
I bet that doe gets bonked by quite a few thinking its a Chinook.

ah...looks more like a cutty to me...what makes you think that's a coho?
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #19 on: September 18, 2015, 06:11:12 PM »

ah...looks more like a cutty to me...what makes you think that's a coho?
totally agreed , looks like cut
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #20 on: September 18, 2015, 06:29:25 PM »

ah...looks more like a cutty to me...what makes you think that's a coho?
The complete lack of red colour, lack of spots on the other fins, and shape of the caudal fin.
At the time I didn't know so I showed the pictures to a group of very experienced river anglers.
Unanimously Coho and many said that they are commonly caught on the upper Vedder late in the year.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2015, 06:31:02 PM »

You beat me to it. Pretty sure typhoon would have at least noticed the red slash in a fish that coloured. Not to mention the lack of spots below the lateral line.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2015, 07:18:20 PM »

not all cutties have spots below the lateral lines...i can see an argument for the caudal fin being large, but the rays don't quite add up and the black belly and lack of red seem suspicious...also the ciser on the fish seem to protrude past the eye socket...long snout and abundance of spots around the head.

https://kortumofdiscovery.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/bonneville-cutthroat-trout.jpg

http://wildlife.utah.gov/strawberry/photos/10_1.jpg
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2015, 07:32:55 PM »

not all cutties have spots below the lateral lines...i can see an argument for the caudal fin being large, but the rays don't quite add up and the black belly and lack of red seem suspicious...also the ciser on the fish seem to protrude past the eye socket...long snout and abundance of spots around the head.

https://kortumofdiscovery.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/bonneville-cutthroat-trout.jpg

http://wildlife.utah.gov/strawberry/photos/10_1.jpg
Those look like westlope cutties, no?
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2015, 10:55:13 PM »

Well, at least I'm not the only one who has a hard time.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2015, 11:10:42 PM »

I have been doing this for three years and am only just starting to become comfortable, but still release many fish because I am unsure of the ID. 

Good for you for caring enough to ask the right questions and to release a fish you were unsure of.

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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2015, 05:39:39 PM »

Pacific salmon do hybridize.

Chinook will hybridize with coho, and pinks with chum. Those are the only 2 decisive and confirmed hybrids I've seen. I have seen many coho with spots over their entire tail. On the island, it's even common to catch sockeye with spotted tails

P.S... For those saying typhoons coho is a cutty... A very easy way to determine salmon from trout (used commonly in fish ID for juveniles) is spots on the dorsal. Salmon don't have spots on the dorsal, trout do, therefore that fish is a coho.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2015, 06:06:18 PM »

Definitely a coho; I've seen many late run coho on the Vedder that look like that.  Fwiw, I've also seen sockeye in the Stuart system with fully spotted tails.
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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #28 on: September 20, 2015, 07:42:10 PM »

Pacific salmon do hybridize.

Chinook will hybridize with coho, and pinks with chum. Those are the only 2 decisive and confirmed hybrids I've seen. I have seen many coho with spots over their entire tail. On the island, it's even common to catch sockeye with spotted tails

P.S... For those saying typhoons coho is a cutty... A very easy way to determine salmon from trout (used commonly in fish ID for juveniles) is spots on the dorsal. Salmon don't have spots on the dorsal, trout do, therefore that fish is a coho.


Considering where you work, I'm going to take this as gospel. ;)

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Re: Coho Tails...
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2015, 08:13:25 PM »

Pacific salmon do hybridize.

P.S... For those saying typhoons coho is a cutty... A very easy way to determine salmon from trout (used commonly in fish ID for juveniles) is spots on the dorsal. Salmon don't have spots on the dorsal, trout do, therefore that fish is a coho.

say again?

http://theterramarproject.org/thedailycatch/chinook-salmon/
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