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Fishing in British Columbia => Fishing-related Issues & News => Topic started by: Jaws on August 22, 2009, 03:58:30 PM

Title: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: Jaws on August 22, 2009, 03:58:30 PM
You have your limit and you keep fishing.  Can you hand someone your rod if you hook a fish subsequent to having your limit?

Legal or not?

Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: marmot on August 22, 2009, 04:13:48 PM
You have to pass the rod so at no point in time are both anglers simultaneously touching the rod, then once you've passed the rod over you have to close your eyes and count to 15.  If the fish is landed prior to a 15 count it's still counted against your daily catch limit, otherwise it can go against your friend or clients limit.  It's sort of like the 2 second rule with food landing on the floor only the inverse of that.

Stick to that and you'll be safe  ;D
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: Jaws on August 22, 2009, 04:25:25 PM
You forgot the part where you jump on one leg and touch your nose with your left indext finger at the same time.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: marmot on August 22, 2009, 05:47:50 PM
That's an outdated unethical regulation that only the scotsmen follow now :)
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: oni_kage on August 22, 2009, 06:24:46 PM
I think if you hook it and pass it off right away it should be fine
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: adriaticum on August 22, 2009, 07:03:04 PM
Limit only applies to retention.
So if you have caught your limit of salmon you ca continue to fish but you have to release them.

One exception is steelhead.
If you catch one and keep it, you must stop fishing that water for that day.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: Fish Assassin on August 22, 2009, 07:55:24 PM
Limit only applies to retention.
So if you have caught your limit of salmon you ca continue to fish but you have to release them.


If you have retained your daily limit you must stop fishing for the day is my understanding.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: Jaws on August 22, 2009, 09:59:16 PM
So, you take your family fishing and dad catches 3 pinks in the tidal portion of the Fraser......he then hooks a fourth fish and hands the rod to his wife/son/daughter!?   That way, you haven't landed your limit and can keep fishing....can you???
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: Rodney on August 23, 2009, 12:52:14 AM
Unlike the freshwater steelhead fishery, when fishing for salmon in both tidal and freshwater systems, you can continue catching and releasing after retaining your daily quota. You are also allowed to hook fish and hand the rod to other individuals who possess a valid licence and salmon stamp so they could fight, land and retain the fish.

The decision that one makes becomes an ethical one, so it differs from person to person. Personally I will not hook a fish and hand the rod to my companions until all retain their quotas. Hook a fish or two for a kid to keep him or her happy, but if you want to catch a fish, hook your own if you can cast and reel.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: casinoJim on August 23, 2009, 09:54:38 AM
related to the post....
Dad takes young son to the river where the retention is 4 pinks, this way they can retain 8 pinks together?

Jim.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: dennisK on August 23, 2009, 12:33:51 PM
related to the post....
Dad takes young son to the river where the retention is 4 pinks, this way they can retain 8 pinks together?

Jim.

technically I'd say yes.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: canso on August 23, 2009, 07:00:47 PM
related to the post....
Dad takes young son to the river where the retention is 4 pinks, this way they can retain 8 pinks together?

Jim.

and how young can this son be?
2 maybe 3 years old?
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: nosey on August 25, 2009, 09:28:44 AM
Fishing guides set the hook then hand the rod over to their clients on a regular basis, if it's legal for them it must be legal for someone that's already limited out.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 25, 2009, 11:55:18 AM
and how young can this son be?
2 maybe 3 years old?
The kids would have to be capable of actually landing the fish.

I've been out back when there sockeye in the rivers...

Some idiot would sit there with a fish on the line hollering for his 9 year old kid to get the rod, while the kid is off playing in the bushes doing something he actually WANTS to do... it's quite a pitiful sight really  :'(  Dad not grasping what his kids REALLY want to do. (not just be another reason for 2 more fish)... Sigh.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: robj on August 29, 2009, 08:05:53 AM

Some idiot would sit there with a fish on the line hollering for his 9 year old kid to get the rod, while the kid is off playing in the bushes doing something he actually WANTS to do... it's quite a pitiful sight really  :'(  Dad not grasping what his kids REALLY want to do. (not just be another reason for 2 more fish)... Sigh.

Seen it all the time back in the Sockeye days.  But then I started fishing from a boat and left those folks on the shore.  Much more relaxing from a boat.

Have a great day

Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: avb on September 01, 2009, 09:03:06 AM
One thing I've learned is that if there is a fuzzy rule in fishing or room for interpretation someone will allways take advantage of it. Ethical or not, it is not illegal, therefore no consequence. The exception, I think should allways be the Kids, So what if a rod is handed to them and they land it, It's about attempting to build a next generation of anglers and creating an intrest. I've watched an entire Bank of sockeye fishers hook a fish and call this kid down to land the fish. The Kid maybe 10 yrs old spent the entire afternoon running up and down the bank landing everyones fish. He had a great time. 
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: jimmywits on September 01, 2009, 09:11:07 AM
One thing I've learned is that if there is a fuzzy rule in fishing or room for interpretation someone will allways take advantage of it. Ethical or not, it is not illegal, therefore no consequence. The exception, I think should allways be the Kids, So what if a rod is handed to them and they land it, It's about attempting to build a next generation of anglers and creating an intrest. I've watched an entire Bank of sockeye fishers hook a fish and call this kid down to land the fish. The Kid maybe 10 yrs old spent the entire afternoon running up and down the bank landing everyones fish. He had a great time. 
As long as this practice is not used to increase the number of fish killed over the adult's limit, I would not have a problem, kids need fun.
Title: Re: Handing someone your rod to land a fish
Post by: scouterjames on September 01, 2009, 12:30:47 PM
technically I'd say yes.

Tidal, the youth needs a license and salmon stamp,  as long as they have them, they have their own limit, same as any other licensed angler.  The regs state under 16 but I don't see anywhere it has a minimum age.

non tidal - if they are a resident of BC then they have their own limit.  Non-resident youth must be accompanied by a licensed adult and the youths catch is counted on the adults license (ie limit).