Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: PinFishin on November 26, 2014, 02:54:40 PM
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Quite simply put, I hear a ton of people hating on them. I wanna know why?
I hate fishing a riffle or drifting past a tail out and having to retrieve through faster water just to lose my piece of roe in the process. I have never had this issue with a roe bag. Changing bait is time out of water which means less fish.
Also, I've used single eggs in roe bags. Has anyone used chunks in bags?
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I love fishing roe bags.... cleaner stay on longer and they produce lots of fish for me.
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No hate here , my go to for steelhead , 3 per sac , when its to cold to feel your fingers it's a good bait to use .
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Yep. I've caught steel and coho on roe bags as well. Just lots of work pre-tying beforehand. Not as messy as straight roe "in the field". I primarily use roe bags for steel. One question I do have is do you guys switch up hook sizes for roe bags vs. roe chunks? For example, for coho I go with size 4 gamis with straight roe. But for steel, I'll go to a size 2 or 1 with a roe bag. I wonder if a size 4 with a roe bag is too small? Thoughts on hook size for roe bags?
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I generally use a #2 gami , have used #4's when I've run out . Can't really remember any noticeable difference , just prefer a #2 .
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x2 on the # 2 gami's. I have had great success with #2's and roe sacks. I usually tie up sacks with 3 eggs, 4 eggs, and 5 eggs. Having a few different size bags is always good. Sometimes I add a few floaters inside the bags to help keep them buoyant. Getting together with a few guys and a bottle of sailor Jerrys while tying toe bags is something I look forward too every November.
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Has anyone tried chunks in bags?
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Has anyone tried chunks in bags?
Yep.
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I guess that is proof enough. Thanks Rod.
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Rod. Is that fresh or cured roe your using in the bags?
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X2 - cured roe then tied in a sack... :)
(http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m262/akong1/Steelhead/steelhenface-feb-4-12-crop.jpg) (http://s106.photobucket.com/user/akong1/media/Steelhead/steelhenface-feb-4-12-crop.jpg.html)
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do people generally trim down the excess bag? like trim down close to the knot? Does it matter?
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If you have confidence in roe bags then they will work! It doesn't have to be pretty, I can tell you that my roe bags look so good but don't understand why it is that my buddy hooks a lot when his bags look like a tiny pouch full of crushed sugary singles. Pretty sure its the cure on his singles!
Personally though, I still tie bags the night before an outing as backup but rarely do I use them as I much prefer pieces of roe or other baits but there are situations I would use them first(fast seams, fast runs).
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Rod. Is that fresh or cured roe your using in the bags?
That's usually cured roe which has been frozen during the salmon season and defrosted, tied the night before each steelhead outing.
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I like egg bags as well but one huge advantage roe has is scent.
The water hardened eggs just don't have it.
Your welcome. ;)
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I like egg bags as well but one huge advantage roe has is scent.
The water hardened eggs just don't have it.
Your welcome. ;)
That's what scent is for. :)
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Throw one Jensen egg near the top of the bag and run your hook through that. Also 2X, a little scent doesn't hurt. Just put a few drops into your ziplock (I use krill oil sometimes) where store them. When one gets tired just throw it back in the back. Also, a scented roe ball is a great addition to a thumbnail size spin and glo combo on the highwater/blown-out days... fished in about two feet of water.
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Throw one Jensen egg near the top of the bag and run your hook through that. Also 2X, a little scent doesn't hurt. Just put a few drops into your ziplock (I use krill oil sometimes) where store them. When one gets tired just throw it back in the back. Also, a scented roe ball is a great addition to a thumbnail size spin and glo combo on the highwater/blown-out days... fished in about two feet of water.
Spin N Glos <3
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I dont know about 'hating' on roe bags, but fishermen that choose loose roe over sacs or vice versa usually cite some sort of advantage with it. ie it looks more natural, it milks better, you get better hooksets, etc
I also prefer sacs mostly for the convenience, and having spent lots of time fishing alongside loose roe users, I cant say one is clearly more effective than the other. They both work. More fish are caught on loose roe because more people use loose roe.
All these perceived advantages are probably not that significant as far as the fish are concerned and this thread clearly shows that lots of people have plenty of success with sacs and it's certainly not preventing people from catching fish.
It doesn't have to be pretty, I can tell you that my roe bags look so good but don't understand why it is that my buddy hooks a lot when his bags look like a tiny pouch full of crushed sugary singles.
I like this observation because it shows how something that might look 'good' to you or me may not matter much if at all to the fish. Pin-nook's friends success despite not having nice round perfectly tied sacs probably suggests that particular aspect may not be that important or is insignificant relative to other things like scent/colour/drift.