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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: andrew5 on August 26, 2010, 02:09:01 PM

Title: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: andrew5 on August 26, 2010, 02:09:01 PM
Hi guys,

with th commercial opening in the tidal portion of te Fraser, will the upper part of the river have recovered enough by Saturday to warrant a venture out to a bar, or will it be largely void of sockeye?

Just wondering, as I am investing in new gear today...

Thanks,

Andrew
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: Easywater on August 26, 2010, 02:23:37 PM
A few years ago I had a bunch of time off and got pretty good at predicting salmon travel.
It got to the point where I knew the fishing would be bad and I wouldn't go out.

It takes approximately 3 days for fish to reappear near Hope after a commercial opening at the mouth.
Same thing happened last weekend - no fish until Saturday evening.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: ynot on August 26, 2010, 02:29:29 PM
i agree about 3 days to hope ,might bo ok sat morning but for 1-2 days it will be slow. sat/sun maybe monday.at hope.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: andrew5 on August 26, 2010, 02:35:09 PM
when we are talking about the bars around chilliwack, is this considered hope by you guys?

really hoping Saturday afternoon will be ok. any chance of this?
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: rhino on August 26, 2010, 02:55:02 PM
when we are talking about the bars around chilliwack, is this considered hope by you guys?

really hoping Saturday afternoon will be ok. any chance of this?

dont worry so much about that. There is always a chance of fish if you get you line wet. go and have fun if thats possible with combat fishing. :D
Good luck.

Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: vancook on August 26, 2010, 03:14:53 PM
Just get out there and give er, fishing might be slow but there will be some fish in the water
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: chilliwackfisher on August 26, 2010, 09:31:50 PM
 Lots of fish to go around for everyone this year. Got my 2 today and another buddy got his 2 in an hour and a half.  Im sure there will be fish over the weekend, may take a bit but it will pay off.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: andrew5 on August 27, 2010, 09:40:23 AM
I've got all day Saturday, and super early Sunday if need be.

I am wondering if there will be a noticeable difference between early Saturday and later Saturday afternoon/evening for the fish coming back up.

Is there any point at getting there at 6 in the morning with the commercial fishery that just happened, or do you think giving the fish that extra half day might bode better for the number of fish encountered?
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: DavidD on August 27, 2010, 09:49:17 AM
There may be a difference - but as many get caught in the commercial opening - there are still quite a few that get by the nets.  It may just be a matter of putting in some extra time on Saturday. 

The locals may show up early to get their 2 and be done with it.  I noticed this year that later in the morning/early afternoon, there seems to be a little more room available at the popular bars.  But it was also very hot then as well.

Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: andrew5 on August 27, 2010, 10:09:03 AM
ey guys,

rather than starting a new thread and looking like I am just trying to get my post count up, I thiought I would ask another related question here:


I know there are several differnt timed runs of the socks, and that DFO can shut the fishery down any time they choose/think is right, but approximately how long does the sockeye run go for

AND, given the high returns this year, how long do you think the recreational opening will last?

Also, am i right in hearing that the lte run of socks is the biggest one???

Thanks in advance for the continuing great advice, guys,

Andrew
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: DragonSpeed on August 27, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
The river will close faster than a bank at 4pm as soon as the first of the interior coho start to show up.   The consensus is that no bycatch of them is acceptable.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: CohoMan on August 27, 2010, 10:39:30 AM
It all depends.

I remembered years back when we were fishing for cohos and ended up going to the Fraser for sockeyes- that probably meant we went right into September.

I do not remember the year though.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: ynot on August 27, 2010, 12:37:47 PM
yesterday 97000 in the blinkhorn test biggest so far. the run is a monster. how can they close sports if they leave nets in the river,nets kill coho.sports can release them.most of the late run havent even seen the river. i was at gill road 24th sept in 1997. dident see any coho flossed then it was pinks and sockeye.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: milo on August 27, 2010, 01:26:49 PM
Does it really matter how productive it will be?
Just go out and enjoy the day.
You should be able to catch your two fish no problem, if that is what you are looking at.

I personally want to try them on the fly this weekend. Flossing them with gear is just too easy! ;D
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: andrew5 on August 27, 2010, 02:09:18 PM
Oh I'm definitely going. Just have to decide/figure out which bar to go to for my first foray...
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: vancook on August 27, 2010, 03:26:09 PM
The river will close faster than a bank at 4pm as soon as the first of the interior coho start to show up.   The consensus is that no bycatch of them is acceptable.

here here, I am assuming the fraser is closing after the long weekend with the expected interior coho run to start showing any time now. Monday will be my last trip to the Fraser  as I'll be either working the rest of the week  and then off camping in tofino for the long weekend. soon I will be able to hit the smaller rivers again with my pin in hand.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: liketofish on August 27, 2010, 05:26:31 PM
Saw tons of boat around Portman Bridge on Thursday. Guess what? Albion test fishery which is above Portman has only 14 sockeyes the day after. Looks like the boats sucked out most socx. Weekenders should have a tough time to get their fish, but I guess you can catch those smallies which escaped the nets, probably with net marks all over. Good luck.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: Morty on August 27, 2010, 07:43:10 PM
Here's some data to help you figure out your plan:

- migrating Fraser sockeye travel at 1.5 to 2 km/hr in the lower Fraser    http://faculty.forestry.ubc.ca/hinch/Hanson%20et%20al%202008.pdf

- it's 110 km. by water from the mouth to Island 22 (130 to Agassiz/Rosedale, 160 to Haig/Scale)

- commercial ended at 8:00 pm Thursday night

- high tide at New Westminster was aprox. 8:00 pm Thursday night.

Get those calculators going
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: Dr. Backlash on August 27, 2010, 07:51:16 PM
I just picked up my outboard from Bridgeview and I overheard a native commercial fisherman who was getting his boat serviced, say that there is an opening at 6:00am tomorrow morning and he's going out first thing in the morning...not sure if that will have an impact or not, just thought I'd pass on the info
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: k.c. on August 27, 2010, 08:47:37 PM
Does it really matter how productive it will be?
Just go out and enjoy the day.

Someone who gets it ;)
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: Makaveli on August 28, 2010, 11:54:01 AM
i am planning on taking my dad to pegleg or pipeline this sunday to floss, i am using 17lb mono suffix line. do you guys think its sufficient?
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: dennyman on August 28, 2010, 12:41:53 PM
Could be a little light if you go to a place where there are a lot of snags. You will end up losing a lot of gear with the light line, as you try to get back your gear from where you have snagged up.
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: chris gadsden on August 28, 2010, 12:51:22 PM
When out for a drive this am around Gill some people said very slow but on a stop at the Agassiz Rosedale bridge saw a party of two with 4 fish, also F/N drifting.

I am happy with my 15 lb chinook from Thursday, will wait until next week to go bar fishing again when things should improve some. :-\
Title: Re: How productive will the upper Fraser be this weekend?
Post by: Easywater on August 28, 2010, 01:15:20 PM
i am planning on taking my dad to pegleg or pipeline this sunday to floss, i am using 17lb mono suffix line. do you guys think its sufficient?

I would never use mono bouncing for sockeye - there are so many snags.

You may be alright if you use a very light leader (main line should be heavier than the leader) but your leader should be at least 20lb.