Fishing with Rod Discussion Forum
Fishing in British Columbia => Fly Fishing Cafe => Topic started by: Xgolfman on December 08, 2005, 09:26:47 PM
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I'm not competent enough to try it yet but i got a 9wt. that i'm paying off...what line would you guys recommend for it? i had pretty much assumed any sinking tip but the more i'm reading the more i'm thinking i might need more then one...it's going to be a salmon/steelhead rod.
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RIO Versitip. The only line you'll need to fish rivers, and you don't have to pay for multiple spools. No spools to fill up your vest either, and no need to restring rods on the banks. I have been using them for my 5wt, 6wt, 8wt, and spey rods, and I've been more than happy with RIO's multi-tip lines for years.
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Like Stone said, Rio Multi Tip
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Excellent..i've been looking hard at them after reading other reports about them...i will go with that, makes sound sense..thanks,
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Well, there are many option out there.. its all depends on where you gonna fish etc... Come down to Anglers West on thursday (dec 15th) night for the open house/ x'mas party, i can show you a few option.
Marco
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I've been using a six weight rod with a six weight floating line to fish Vedder/Norrish and Squamish for salmon. I loop on various lenghts of T-14 as a sinking tip (3, 6 or 10 feet depending of the speed of the river). It overloads the rod (I have calculated that I am chucking an 8+ wt equivalent line with the T-14 looped on). I'll be getting a new 8 wt rod for xmas. I intend to keep using the same 6wt floating line plus sinking tips at first. I will eventually buy an 8 wt floating line on which I will use the same sink tips. Just a suggestion of a cheap way to get started; this is a home-made change tip system.
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It's true that you can make your own multi-tip system if you so desired. I for one do not particularly like to cast T-14 or LC-13. I don't enjoy the "chuck and duck" type of flycasting.
But considering that an 8wt RIO Versitip costs about $169 retail, it might be a better deal than a homemade one utilizing RIO tips. I break down the costs as follows:
1) Basic good quality full floating line to provide the belly and running line for the system: $49-69.
2) Four 15' RIO tips (since the full RIO system provides 5 tips) at $19 each: $76.
3) Add your time and labour for cutting the line and forming the loops...add around $20 if you are going to buy and use braided loops.
In the end, you would spend between $145-165, plus your time and the risk of cutting the floating line in the wrong place...and you could have bought a well made factory tip system for only a few dollars more. Granted...if you do use the T-14 or LC-13 for tips instead of RIO tips, you will save a lot of money. But like I've said, it just depends on what you expect out of it, and whether or not you would like to enjoy casting that line or not.
If you do buy an 8wt RIO system, you can save money by re-using those same tips for an 8wt spey setup later. I've recently bought another spey outfit to compliment my 9140. I've picked up a 7wt spey system, and I bought an Airflo Delta Spey floating line for it. Rick Baerg at Fred's Custom Tackle cut back the front of my line and formed a pretty cool loop using the core of the line. I'm going to be using the sinking tips from my RIO Versitip 8wt with that line tomorrow. Having those heads saved me a bunch of money on my spey setup...and both lines will cast very well. Good luck!
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the cheapest way to make a sink tip fly line is using a shooting head system with "slick shooter." you simply make a loop on the running line, and get section of T-14, LC-13 or T-8 for your head system... this set up might cost you the most of $40. and get the job done. But the down side to this is the thin running, its very easy to get tangle, so you need a stripping basket or some sort to manage your line.
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Tug & Turf at its best and it works.
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i've been looking for the versi tips on ebay to see what i'm ordering...i'm not seeing any, i've gone to the rio website but i'm not sure if it's the right one either...any where you guys know where i can see it and costs????
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From RIO's website:
Called the Coldwater Versitip:
(http://www.rioproducts.com/images/20166-1.jpg)
VersiTip® Fly Line
An interchangeable tip line for coldwater float tube fishing, steelhead, Atlantic and Pacific salmon as well as saltwater angling in a one-line-does-all configuration. Created from the WindCutter® fly line design, the VersiTip® has a stiff non-hinging loop design and four interchangeable sinking tips. Unlike other sink tips, this line is designed with a thick belly to turn over heavy sinking density tips. The VersiTip has a front floating tip one to two sizes smaller than the nominal weight of the line, which facilitates a light presentation of the fly. Attach either the floating tip or one of the sinking tips directly to the belly. The best way to cast this line is with the belly just a foot or two outside the rod tip. Packaged with the floating tip, plus a 15 ft water clear AquaLux Intermediate on single strand monofilament core (1.5 ips 3.8 cm/s), Type 3 DC (3 - 4 ips 8.9 cm/s), Type 6 DC (6 - 7 ips 17 cm/s) and the new Type 8 DC (8 - 9 ips 20.3 cm/s) sinking tips (sizes #8 - #10 only). The VersiTip can be customized using RIO's shooting heads and cutting any size to length for the prevailing fishing conditions. It is the fly line favored by Alaskan guides for all species and by steelhead fly fishers. Coldwater coating on a nylon multifilament braided core.
WF4 Tips - WF10 Tips
Color: Yellow
http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20166&useMet=0#chart (http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20166&useMet=0#chart)
Retails for around $165 CAD in the Lower Mainland.
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From RIO's website:
Called the Coldwater Versitip:
(http://www.rioproducts.com/images/20166-1.jpg)
VersiTip® Fly Line
An interchangeable tip line for coldwater float tube fishing, steelhead, Atlantic and Pacific salmon as well as saltwater angling in a one-line-does-all configuration. Created from the WindCutter® fly line design, the VersiTip® has a stiff non-hinging loop design and four interchangeable sinking tips. Unlike other sink tips, this line is designed with a thick belly to turn over heavy sinking density tips. The VersiTip has a front floating tip one to two sizes smaller than the nominal weight of the line, which facilitates a light presentation of the fly. Attach either the floating tip or one of the sinking tips directly to the belly. The best way to cast this line is with the belly just a foot or two outside the rod tip. Packaged with the floating tip, plus a 15 ft water clear AquaLux Intermediate on single strand monofilament core (1.5 ips 3.8 cm/s), Type 3 DC (3 - 4 ips 8.9 cm/s), Type 6 DC (6 - 7 ips 17 cm/s) and the new Type 8 DC (8 - 9 ips 20.3 cm/s) sinking tips (sizes #8 - #10 only). The VersiTip can be customized using RIO's shooting heads and cutting any size to length for the prevailing fishing conditions. It is the fly line favored by Alaskan guides for all species and by steelhead fly fishers. Coldwater coating on a nylon multifilament braided core.
WF4 Tips - WF10 Tips
Color: Yellow
http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20166&useMet=0#chart (http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20166&useMet=0#chart)
Retails for around $165 CAD in the Lower Mainland.
did you see the third one down??? (after the dredger)..does that sound like a good line for us out here? bet it costs mucho duckets...
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From RIO's website:
Called the Coldwater Versitip:
(http://www.rioproducts.com/images/20166-1.jpg)
VersiTip® Fly Line
An interchangeable tip line for coldwater float tube fishing, steelhead, Atlantic and Pacific salmon as well as saltwater angling in a one-line-does-all configuration. Created from the WindCutter® fly line design, the VersiTip® has a stiff non-hinging loop design and four interchangeable sinking tips. Unlike other sink tips, this line is designed with a thick belly to turn over heavy sinking density tips. The VersiTip has a front floating tip one to two sizes smaller than the nominal weight of the line, which facilitates a light presentation of the fly. Attach either the floating tip or one of the sinking tips directly to the belly. The best way to cast this line is with the belly just a foot or two outside the rod tip. Packaged with the floating tip, plus a 15 ft water clear AquaLux Intermediate on single strand monofilament core (1.5 ips 3.8 cm/s), Type 3 DC (3 - 4 ips 8.9 cm/s), Type 6 DC (6 - 7 ips 17 cm/s) and the new Type 8 DC (8 - 9 ips 20.3 cm/s) sinking tips (sizes #8 - #10 only). The VersiTip can be customized using RIO's shooting heads and cutting any size to length for the prevailing fishing conditions. It is the fly line favored by Alaskan guides for all species and by steelhead fly fishers. Coldwater coating on a nylon multifilament braided core.
WF4 Tips - WF10 Tips
Color: Yellow
http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20166&useMet=0#chart (http://www.rioproducts.com/pages/flylines_prodpage.asp?product=20166&useMet=0#chart)
Retails for around $165 CAD in the Lower Mainland.
;D :-[ screwed up the last one.... :o anyways, the last one under the dredger looked promising as well but i can't find these suckers on any websites...ill keep looking, thanks Stone...
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Anyone who knows me knows that I wouldn't put in a gratuitous plug for M&Y...but they do list the full line of RIO products on their website...so it's for reference only. ;D
http://www.myflyshop.com/online.html (http://www.myflyshop.com/online.html)
Click "Online Store" and then "Fly Lines" on the left menu. Don't be shy about seeing if you can get some sort of deal on these expensive lines.
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Hi Stone, do you have info for the new Airflo multitip?
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From Airflo's website:
http://www.flylines.com/Flylines_AirfloFlylineRange_Fresh_MultiTip.cfm (http://www.flylines.com/Flylines_AirfloFlylineRange_Fresh_MultiTip.cfm)
(http://www.flylines.com/TemplateImages/Flylines/Body/ProductsNew/MultiTip.jpg)
New and improved for 2006, Tactical Multi tips are now made on a braided core for improved suppleness and features our new improved sleeved welded loops for improved strength and durability. Airflo's unique polyurethane welded loop technology really make the interchangeable tip system hinge free and eliminates any ‘kick’ during the cast, whilst remaining easy to change.
Multi Tip is available in a supple cold water coating and comes with 4 tip sections including floating, sink 2,sink 5 & sink 8. All tips are 12’ long and now feature our unique welded loop system at tip and
butt for easy loop to loop connections.
After reading this product description of the redesign for the new year, I am thinking that this new multitip is a totally different line from the original series that I own (and dislike). I didn't like the stretchy traditional core of my line, and that's now fixed with a no stretch braided core. I didn't like the loops, but they seem to have a new loop system that may be an improvement. The sink ratings of their tips is interesting...kind of "in between" traditional numbers, and a super fast type 8 instead of a type 6.
It would be interesting for someone who actually owns this new line to give some feedback.
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off rio's website they show the anadromous advantage...what do you think of this one???
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Yes can some one help? I went in to get a RIO but they mentioned the new Airflo should be better.
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as an update...i went into a shop that had a androm. advantage...the tips are longer, in the 20 foot range, they are built better to do whatever job each one is designed for and they are easier to cast and much longer....this is the one i think i'm going to go with if i can find a decent deal on it...down in us it's 150 for the one they had and i swear it was used...