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Title: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on December 15, 2007, 12:25:02 PM
Well, we ventured out to the fishing ground for the first time since we arrived in Denmark a few days ago. The weather was surprisingly mild, sunny and CALM. Persistent wind can really drive you crazy on this island nation at times. Today, we could cast in all directions without worrying about being blown around. The glassy water surface was also relaxing to look at. We visited a river where we have fished regularly. It produces sea trout, northern pike, european perch and a few other coarse fish species. Today, the target species are the three predatory fish mentioned above. Fishing can be good in the winter. The temperature is low, fish are not as mobile, so only big food items would tempt a strike.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2007/071215-1.jpg)

Cost of fishing this river is much higher than what would cost to fish in BC. Beside the CAD$30 annual license, a day card that costs CAD$15 is also required.

Anyway, perhaps it was the nice weather, the fishing was not exactly spectacular. The first few hours were unproductive. Once the river was shaded in the afternoon, I managed to hook a small northern pike, which managed to wiggle itself into the weeds. I was able to pull it out, but the hook popped off when I carelessly horsed it to shore in the end.

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We also explored a new section of the river, where I missed a few more good takes. Just when we were about to call it a day, I somehow foul-hooked a poor bream, which gave me some of its snot-like slime before I sent it back to the drink.

(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc90/fishingwithrod/2007/071215-3.jpg)

Beach fishing for sea trout tomorrow. Perhaps we will have better luck there.

We've set up a blog to put up website updates, document trips like this one etc, just to see if it is more organized this way. Anyway, it's at:

http://fishingwithrod.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Beautiful day, poor fishing in Denmark December 15th, 2007
Post by: Xgolfman on December 15, 2007, 06:53:41 PM
Blogs cool Rod, but more shots of Nina and less of you!!! :-*
Title: Re: Beautiful day, poor fishing in Denmark December 15th, 2007
Post by: BladeKid on December 15, 2007, 07:39:15 PM
Awesome report Rod!
Title: Re: Beautiful day, poor fishing in Denmark December 15th, 2007
Post by: Fish Assassin on December 15, 2007, 08:17:13 PM
Nice blog. Looking forward to reading on the " going ons" in Denmark
Title: Re: Beautiful day, poor fishing in Denmark December 15th, 2007
Post by: adriaticum on December 15, 2007, 09:12:01 PM
Wow, much nicer weather in Europe...
I have almost forgotten that we have fishing in Vancouver.
Quite depressing.
Title: Re: Beautiful day, poor fishing in Denmark December 15th, 2007
Post by: Rodney on December 16, 2007, 11:48:21 AM
Today we had a change of scenery. I was guided by two local avid beach fishermen who are constantly chasing sea trout. Sea trout, or migratory brown trout, is a rather fascinating species with a complex life history. As adults, they spend time feeding in the fjords or ocean and return to their natal streams when spawning. This is somewhat similar to pacific salmonids, except the timing of return is irregular. Some may choose to stay in the marine environment for an extra year until condition favours spawning. As a result, the size variation of fish caught on the beach is quite significant throughout the year.

Henrik and Lars decided to take me to a new location where I have not seen in the southern part of Zealand. Apparently the fishing during the week was good for some locals, who managed to land up to 25 fish on spinning gear. It means nothing really, since sea trout are constantly on the move. They follow the food source and seek out pockets of warmer water during the winter months. Well, appparently food and warm baths were further away from the beaches today, because we did not hit a single fish. The key was to cast into the darker weed patches, retrieve, and take one step and repeat the process. This ensures that the entire beach section is thoroughly fished. It’s basically steelhead fishing, except with a million gallons more water.

I managed to take some photos of the coastline, which is quite typical around Denmark. Notice the clay erosion on some of the small cliffs. It is an ongoing process caused by rain, freezing and melting.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on December 23, 2007, 02:17:51 AM
A large high pressure has hovered around Denmark for over a week now. You would think that translates into clear, sunny sky. Instead, we just had dense fog and subzero temperature. The weather is expected to turn in the next few days as the high pressure moves on, meaning we will be back to milder but typically windier weather once again. Ryan, Lars and I took adventage of the last calm day by visiting the local beach.

There are no fish to report once again unfortunately. We spotted some large rainbow trout that escaped from nearby farms as we waded through the weedbeds. A few followed the fly, but none committed.

The photos pretty much sum it up - Foggy, grey, cold and fishless. These almost look black and white.

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Here are a bunch of photos from around Copenhagen:

http://fishingwithrod.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/around-copenhagen-a-pictorial/

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: norm_2 on December 25, 2007, 04:20:34 PM
Good photos,  I especially like the ones from Dec. 23rd.  Is the Canadian dollar higher or lower than on your last trip?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on December 27, 2007, 10:18:05 AM
Good photos,  I especially like the ones from Dec. 23rd.  Is the Canadian dollar higher or lower than on your last trip?

I am definitely getting more out of my Canadian dollars now compaed to the last few years. It's still expensive to buy everyday items but I don't cry as much about it now.



It was ridiculously windy over here as usual. We fished briefly just after lunch. This sea trout swallowed the 15 gram lure, cleared the water twice, made a few long runs and kept us scrambling on the rocks to find a good landing spot. It was not exactly the nicest fish. The locals call these “black fish”, which are post spawners. They are pretty common even in fjords and harbours this time of the year. Oh well, I sent it back after a couple of photos. Bring on the silver ones please.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: DionJL on December 27, 2007, 12:35:39 PM
BOOT!

LOL, better than nothing.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: BladeKid on December 27, 2007, 01:41:47 PM
its a brown trout ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on December 27, 2007, 02:25:29 PM
BOOT!

LOL, better than nothing.

That's right, don't get jealous as usual now. ;D

its a brown trout ;D

Yep, both sea trout and brown trout have the same genus and species name. Sea trout are brown trout that behave like a steelhead but their return timing pattern is not as regular as their pacific cousins. This one was caught in the sea, where you would get a mixture of these and bright feeding fish as well.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on December 28, 2007, 10:12:45 AM
Like all island nations, seafood plays a major role in the diet of Danes. Sole, halibut, cod, salmon, eel, herring and mackerel are just some of the common eaten species, especially during the festive season. A glance through the window of a fish store is always interesting. Not only does it give you an idea what is available seasonally, it allows you to make comparison in prices with fish that are sold in Canada.

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The items on the left side of the window are mostly eggs from various saltwater species. Cod eggs are regularly eaten over here. Tuna cutlets were available at 200 Kroners (CAD$40) per pound! 1 piece of atlantic salmon (approx. 150 grams) costs 55 Kroners (CAD$11)!! It’s not cheap to enjoy seafood here.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: chris gadsden on December 28, 2007, 04:55:35 PM
Farmed Atlantic Salmon I presume. ::)

By the way, nice Brown.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on December 28, 2007, 04:59:18 PM
Most likely, because wilds are actually much more expensive... We usually have smoked wild Atlantics from Norway for Christmas. If I remember correctly, they are several hundred dollars per plate (less than 500 grams).
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 01, 2008, 03:49:44 PM
Happy New Year everyone! Today I had the pleasure to fish with a few fine gentlemen from the Federation of Fly Fishers Denmark (http://www.fffd.dk/). The FFFD is an governing body that is close to 1,000 members strong. Not only does it assist those who wish to become better flyfishers, it spends considerable amount of time, effort and money on rebuilding stream habitat.

Henrik gave me a buzz on the phone a few days ago and suggested a trip to the Swedish Coast on New Year Day. Knowing that I would be incredibly tired from the celebration on the night before, I reluctantly agreed. The Swedish Coast is always closed for fishing from late fall until December 31st, so tackling it on opening day is always a good bet since the fish are not hook-shy.

As expected, the sky over Copenhagen lit up just after midnight with fireworks. In no other cities have I seen people who are so obsessed with fireworks. It baffles me that most people here are willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a few rockets that take less than a minute to blow up. I, on the other hand, enjoy watching all the explosions without spending a dime. Check out the view from our apartment at 12:30am.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRYwvzW2PzI

With all the commotion outside, I could not fall asleep until 4:00am. At 7:45am, Henrik was ready to pick me up downstairs. Still recovering from a minor flu since Christmas, as well as lacking some serious sleep hours, fishing was certainly not on my mind for once. Nevertheless, I convinced myself to tag along because an opportunity to fish in Sweden does not come by often.

We met up with Lars, Svend and Jerk (pronounced York, or Yurk, so I have been told) at the usual meeting spot. Five of us squeezed into Lars’ wagon and over the bridge we went. The drive was actually less than one hour long. The Southern Coast of Sweden is just on the other side of the Baltic Sea. We picked a spot that has the high hills behind the beach to block the gusty Northerly wind. Getting ready on top of the windy hill was not fun. Still recovering from the wild parties, everyone sluggishly suited up.

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By the time we made it down to the hill, I was feeling worse than when we left Copenhagen. I made a few casts once awhile, spent most of the time sitting and visualizing the warm bed. The section that Henrik, Lars and I picked to fish was rather dirty. Seaweed covered the shoreline and water was fairly coloured. After two hours, Jerk phoned from the other end of the beach and reported connection with one fish. The news of a catch always lifts the spirit. We packed up quickly and headed toward where Jerk, or the fish, was.

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Miraculously, I seemed to have fully recovered by the time we reached the other end. Perhaps it was the 20 minute walk, or the fresh cold wind, or the news of a fish being caught, I was just glad that I could finally concentrate on the fishing. The water was much cleaner and the depth change from shore seemed to be bigger too. This is always a good thing because it means little or no wading is required.

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To make a long story short, I once again did not connect with a single sea trout. Jerk, on the other hand, was able to get into four fish! He is after all the president of the FFFD. One of them was a big kelt while the other three were bright silver fish. These silver fish, still a year or two away from their first spawn, are known as grønlænders.

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He decided to keep one of the fish since it had swallowed the fly completely. I was offered the fish, but I politely declined. I think my first kept sea trout should be the one that I catch, in the meantime pastries, pork and potato will have to do.

Beside Jerk’s sea trout, we also saw a couple of fish taken by two Swedish locals, as well as a 2kg Atlantic cod, which is always a bonus when fishing from the beach.

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This winter Baltic sea trout fishing business will most likely take many more years for me to understand and appreciate. It pretty much takes the phrase “that’s fishing, catching is a bonus” to a new level. For an angler who has never experienced it, one would either admire the persistence of those who do it, or simply think they are out of their mind. It’s kind of like steelheading, except there are a gazillion times more water to cover.

Martin Joergensen of Global Flyfisher (http://www.globalflyfisher.com/) recently wrote a depressing, yet funny (to his readers), blog entry (http://www.globalflyfisher.com/blog/index.php?day=2007-12-28) which pretty much sums up my frustration and curiosity.

“A bunch of good friends and myself have been logging all trips and catches since 2003. This log now contains information about 900 trips (1715 man trips since we were more than one person on most trips) that produced 2688 fish altogether. That’s 3 fish per day and 1.6 fish per person per day - on the average. We had 354 skunked trips in that period - a whole year worth of skunked trips in 5 years! One third of all trips were fishless! Yikes!”

Who on earth would want to wade across several kilometers of frigid water and be battered by strong Arctic wind while waving the feather stick for an extremely slim possibility of one tug? Apparently the Scandinavians would.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: norm_2 on January 01, 2008, 04:19:14 PM
Rod, I just saw the high price of those fish.  Next time if you want to bring some vacuumed sealed smoked salmon over, I know how to pack it so that it will still be frozen hard when it gets there.  You would be more even more popular than you are now.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 01, 2008, 04:59:35 PM
Thanks Norm. Actually I had a few fillets of coho salmon vacuum packed (was even considering have them commercially cold smoked, but ran out of time) and was going to bring them but our luggage was already reaching the maximum weight. Too much fishing gear. :-\ Maybe next year, if I have another good coho season. ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Johncke on January 01, 2008, 10:59:58 PM
Who on earth would want to wade across several kilometers of frigid water and be battered by strong Arctic wind while waving the feather stick for an extremely slim possibility of one tug?

Well I would for one, but Hej I’m also a mentally challenged Viking. Sorry I couldn’t take part in our yearly New Year day tradition of opening up the fishing on the South Coast.  What are your plans for the coming weekend ? We plan to visit one of our “sweet spots” on the south coast of Sealand. ;D

Ryan ;)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 02, 2008, 11:14:11 AM
That sounds like a good possibility. :) Sunday? The forecasted weather looks nasty in the next three days.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 06, 2008, 06:18:33 PM
Sunday January 6th marked the second 2008 fishing outing and my 6th Danish outing since my arrival several weeks ago. As usual, the FFFD gang (http://www.fffd.dk/) picked me up at the doorstep just after first light. Such convenient service is really appreciated in a foreign country when you do not have vehicle access most of the time. We made our way to another favorite spot of theirs just one hour drive from Copenhagen.

Finally witnessing a beached fish on New Year Day has lifted my spirit and confidence. Perhaps there is a hope after all. The boys began joking about not being able to connect me with some fish so far, since apparently “the fishing has been fantastic here every year, you should have been here.” Perhaps this is one big practical joke that the Danes are playing on a Canadian fisherman? “Rod, there are only so few fish left in Denmark, so we have actually been taking you to all the spots that don’t have fish and save the rest of the fish for ourselves.”, Lars jokingly remarked when we arrived at the spot.

It was yet another lovely location. The elevated green field behind the beach provided a breathtaking lookout as we made our way down. A couple of farm houses gave me some good photographic opportunities.

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The locals must be baffled everytime when I started snapping photos of their houses. Why on earth is this oriental man so fascinated with buildings? The truth is that you simply do not see structures like these in Canada, where we are so accommodated to tearing down poorly built housings after a couple of decades so we could erect bigger poorly built housings. Most of the houses here are several decades old, if not centuries, so each one has its own charm.

The four of us split up once we reached the beach and covered a large stretch of waters. An hour later, Jerk reported one rainbow trout being hooked, while Lars also spotted a couple of rainbow trout milling about. Svend and I got some fresh air.

Rainbow trout? You would think fjords of Denmark are the last places where these North American natives would be found. These are actually escapees from nearby trout  farms. Just like Atlantic salmon farms on the coast of British Columbia, these escaped trout can be a problem. Invasive species are never good news. Beside transmitting diseases, predating and competing with native species, they can really spoil the fishing experience (kind of ironic coming from an angler who has been desperately trying to barb a fish in the last few weeks). Frankly, I believe the quality of a fishing location should be judged by how natural the resource is, otherwise it would be like fishing in a giant aquarium. The Great Lakes is a prime example of such ecological disasters. While British Columbia can be considered as the last natural wonderland, illegal introduction of Atlantic salmon, bass and northern pike could put an end to it without interventions.

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We decided to make a move. Again, Jerk jokingly remarked, “Now that we have hooked a fish and know there are fish here, we need to move to keep the fish away from you.” I guess that’s what happens when your guides are not being paid.

The second beach was even longer than the first one. Once again we split up to cover all the spots. Lars took off so far until we could not see him. One has to wonder what was in the coffee to get a such a boost of energy in this harsh Nordic winter.

Today I decided to give a technique commonly used by local beach anglers. They are called Bombarda floats, which are weighted but carefully balanced so it provides good casting distance as well as a controlled sink. These are typically used by spin fishermen who wish to fish with a fly at times. The sliding float is threaded onto the main line, which is tied onto a swivel. A leader up to 8 feet is tied on, followed by the fly.

(http://troutbum.dk/Bombarda_fld__ABU.jpg)

The floats come in different weights (10, 15, 20, 25, 30 grams) and different densities (float, intermediate, sinking). On any given day, these could be advantageous as they allow the anglers to cover their waters with a fly much more efficiently. For pseudo-flyfishermen such as myself, who can barely reach 40 feet without hitting the back of my head, these are really handy.

My first taste of the presence of fish came around one hour after covering a stretch of weedbed. When my fly reached the shallows during one retrieve, I briefly spotted one fish following behind it. Perhaps it also spotted me, because it turned around, made a swirl and darted away immediately. Excited, I quickly attempted another cast, but I had forgotten to open the bail on the spinning reel so all I could watch was my Bombarda float flying away like an egg after the dreadful snap. Good thing no one around me saw that.

I then decided to give the trusty metal lure a try. Svend stood nearby and watched, probably wondering why I was spending so much time at one spot. Within a couple of casts, I felt a distinct bite and set the hook. The fish made a couple of kicks on my rod and freed itself before I even had a chance to scream, “Fish on!”

That pretty much sums up another beach outing in Denmark, with a couple of brief encounters. Disappointed? Absolutely not, since each trip has allowed me to absorb local knowledge and fine-tune the techniques. A hook-up also suggests this might not be a conspiracy created by the Danes to hide their fish from this Canadian after all.

Of course, we cannot finish this entry without yet another beach shot.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: BwiBwi on January 07, 2008, 12:59:31 PM
Enough beach shot. When will you finally show a fish shot caught by you?  Better yet a video recording for those of us can't afford to go abroad and fish?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 08, 2008, 03:52:30 PM
A fish caught by me here? The chance of me becoming fluent in Danish is starting to look bigger than catching a fish. :P ;D

How about some animal pics instead? Went to the Copenhagen Zoo today (it's five minutes walk from our place, kind of hard to avoid it every year). Here are some pseudo-nature shots. Enjoy. ;)

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Pat AV on January 08, 2008, 05:08:53 PM
great series of reports i am really enjoying them Rod. have fun over there and keep up the good "work"
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 13, 2008, 01:22:36 PM
An untypical fishing day in Denmark

It was untypical because there was a fish involved! Nina and I took advantage of the unusually warm weather and went back to one of Lars’ favorite spots today. It took us awhile to find it actually. We darted in and out of these small sleepy Danish towns and farms, until I eventually recognized the road where we were supposed to be on.

The sweetness was short lived. The fish grabbed the lure during the first ten minutes of this outing. I thought perhaps we were about to have a sensational day since these fish tend to travel in a school. That was not the case. We spent the next three hours doing the usual casting practice and sightseeing.

This fish followed the lure until it was just several feet away from my rod tip. As I was lifting the lure up, it decided to went for a greedy bite, causing a big swirl on the surface as my rod was pulled down. This also happened last weekend, making me think that I must have been missing quite a few fish by not paying attention when the lure made its way into the shallows.

The fight was brief but rather intense for a little fish. This was my first silver Danish sea trout from the beach, finally after around 30 hours of fishing since early December.

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I had intended to release this fish at first, because we usually don’t keep fish over here to save the hassle of cleaning in a small apartment. Unfortunately a closer examination just after the first photo showed that the fish had taken the lure quite deeply, and blood was gushing out in great amount. I quickly took a measurement. It was just over 40cm, which is the legal size limit for sea trout in Denmark, so I decided to dispatch it.

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Not only we were able to enjoy a fine meal out of it. I got some good ID photos because this fish exhibited these large dark spots that a silver sea trout typically has across its entire body. I guess now I have to wait 30 more fishing hours for sea trout number two?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: marmot on January 13, 2008, 01:56:20 PM
Beautiful fish....almost a shame to eat it ;)  What is the flavor like?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Fish Assassin on January 13, 2008, 04:29:04 PM
Must be a relief to get the monkey off your back. Man, that's a big spoon.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: BladeKid on January 13, 2008, 05:56:04 PM
Must be a relief to get the monkey off your back. Man, that's a big spoon.

I'm assuming they are really aggresive fish then...

Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: BwiBwi on January 13, 2008, 08:11:05 PM
Wow, you do need Nina to be with you to catch a fish eh ?!?  ;D ;D

Hmm, or did you catch it for you.   :D :P ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Derp on January 13, 2008, 10:47:04 PM
gnarly blood pic rod, awesome! 8)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Jonny 5 on January 13, 2008, 11:20:14 PM
Nice fish, nice report... I wish I could do more travel fishing and less working.

Am I correct in assuming that a sea trout is a sea going brown?
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 14, 2008, 04:05:12 AM
Beautiful fish....almost a shame to eat it ;)  What is the flavor like?

The flavour is pretty good. The flesh colour is lighter than I had expected since they are primarily shrimp feeders.

Must be a relief to get the monkey off your back. Man, that's a big spoon.

That lure was (was, because I lost it on my last cast of the day :'( ) 15g, but quite small compared to some of the lures typically used on the coast here. The average weight used seems to be around 20 to 25g, some use lures up to 40g if the beach is known for producing large fish. Because most of the fishing done here is on the coast, their saltwater lure selection is much better than what BC has to offer. I am bringing some home for coho at you know where in August. ;D

Hmm, or did you catch it for you.   :D :P ;D

Shh.... ;D

I'm assuming they are really aggresive fish then...

They are indeed extremely aggressive. Never have I had fish swallowing lures like that, especially when the size of the lure is so big. Some of the other sea trout that I've caught in the past also took the lure/fly quite deeply.

Am I correct in assuming that a sea trout is a sea going brown?

Yes, sea trout are sea-going migratory brown trout. Majority of the sea trout are female brown trout while male trout tend to become freshwater residents, which would mate with the much larger sea-going fish when they return. This one was just a baby, about one year away from its first spawn. They can grow as large as 20lb+.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Buck_wife on January 18, 2008, 10:40:20 AM
Nice pictures Rod. Looks like you guys are enjoying yourself. I have to laugh at the remark you made about being fascinated by the buildings there. We are the same way when we look at pictures that family has emailed out of Holland. We're more interested in the structure and style of the buildings than what the actual picture is about. Our Dutch family and friends find this rather amusing, I guess when you see it everyday you don't even notice it. They would much rather drool over the mountains, trees and rivers here!  :D

Enjoy your stay and keep posting pictures (if you have time) Even if I'm not on here a lot, the first thing I usually check is your Danish Journal!  ;)

Say hello to Nina, and happy New Year to you guys too. (little late, I know)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 18, 2008, 11:05:38 AM
Happy New Year to you, buckeye and little buckies too. :D

The buildings around Copenhagen are not as interesting for me to look at as they used to be, since I walk by them everyday. The most interesting ones are the ones in the rural area. :)

I put the entry below in the blog (http://fishingwithrod.wordpress.com/) yesterday, should have copied and pasted here earlier.

A short bus ride to hungry trout

The weather was quite reasonable today in Copenhagen. Surprisingly, it has not gone sub-zero for many days as I had anticipated, which is a relief. Today’s wind was light with occasional sun peeks so I decided to take a ride down to the local harbour and make a few casts. Busses and trains are incredibly convenient in Copenhagen. People are forced to rely on them since cars are expensive (180% sale tax). The bus beside our apartment goes by once every ten minutes. Once I get on, I would be at the harbour in less than ten minutes, so it is in fact faster than driving as you have to consider the amount of time used to seek for a parking spot.

The locals have been taunting me with some emails about fish that were caught in the harbour last week. One of the regular hardcores, Stig, was into some of his biggest sea trout in his lifetime. The biggest one landed, was measured at 88cm long. That’s 35 inches! The estimated weight for this fish is 24lb.

Armed with some heavy flashy lures that I had just purchased, I too was hoping to connect with beasts similar in size. Stig was already hunting for more fish when I arrived. Ryan arrived soon after to practice his spey casts. It wasn’t long before Stig whistled from a fair distance away. We looked up. He waved his hand frantically while walking backward with a rather bent rod. A good size male sea trout he had on. Most of these fish are now starting to transform back to their ocean phase, losing the spawning colours.

I was able to hook one fish around the same size later on, but landing it was not to be today. The hook popped off near shore just as Ryan pulled out the camera for some action shots. Perhaps tomorrow, the weather looks fairly tolerable once again. Big hungry trout are only a short bus trip away, not many places can offer that.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 19, 2008, 03:48:23 PM
Ten thousand casts later, big silver surrenders

Yesterday while fishing briefly down at the local harbour just before dusk, we saw at least 15 risers in front of us with no takers. Frustrated, I was lured back to the water once again this afternoon. The overnight wind storm has changed the water condition completely. Wind has brought a large volume of water into the narrow channel between the two islands around Copenhagen, causing a sudden surge of strong current. Water visibility was also reduced to about two feet, making fishing even more challenging than what it already has been. The tidal difference in the Baltic Sea is only around 0.5m. Amazingly, current in fjords and narrows are primarily caused by the wind.

As I walked from the bus stop to the harbour, Stig raced by me on his bicycle, he was quite energetic as usual. My fishing companions Lars and Alan were also there. This is a typical hangout for many anglers, who enjoy either doing a bit of fishing, practicing casting after work or simply socializing with friends. Having a viable fishery in this urbanized region benefits the community tremendously. Young anglers can access it with their bikes after school and improve their skills and knowledge on fishing under adult anglers guidance. The facility is set up so older anglers can access it without jeopardizing their own safety. Fish species commonly caught include sea trout, garfish, mackerel, cod and herring. Such productivity did not exist once when the harbour was void of life due to pollution, but cleanups done in recent years have finally drawn both fish and anglers back.

The work of course does not end here. While conversing with the locals the other day, Stig and Ryan informed me that the group has proposed to the City for a permanent floating dock and club house where it can be used as both a fishing platform and a casting pool by everyone. Urban projects such as this are truly inspiring, which make me wonder if the same can be done in the Tidal Fraser River where public access for fishing is becoming more limited due to the surge of development in Metro Vancouver.

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Seeing how milky the water was, I decided to make some casts anyway. I made my way to the other side of the channel where Stig has had success last week, so I could cast into this pocket of slower water. Perhaps, just perhaps, a large sea trout would be avoiding the fast main channel and resting here. I detected a light bump on the first retrieve but came up empty when I set the hook. It was possibly a patch of seaweed. The rest of the guys continue socializing back at the usual spot on the other side of the channel. I spent the next twenty minutes or so casting and retrieving with some optimism.

Finally I felt another light tug. I yanked the rod back reluctantly, thinking that it was yet another clump of weed. It was definitely not a clump of weed, because the weight on the other end had sped away into the current! My brain immediately turned off from sleep to fighting mode. I pointed the rod back to keep it from entering the fast flow. The 9ft long light spinning rod was bent to the cork, indicating that it was a rather large fish. Thinking that it was yet another coloured sea trout that we have been catching, I was in shock when this massive silver body made its first of three leaps in front of me. By this point, the hands were already shaking from both the cold and excitement. I began screaming as loud as possible at the gang across from me, hoping someone would come over to lend a hand. Of course, being such a light talker, no one heard a word. Finally one person spotted the second leap, Ryan and Alan started running over. Stig was also on his way from the other side of the bridge after hearing the commotion. I held on carefully and kept the line tight as the fish surfaced and approached shoreline. Once Stig arrived, he proceeded to reach down to the rocks and found a good landing spot. With one firm grab, my first solid silver sea trout was beached. At last, after hours of trips across Denmark and Sweden, I managed to catch what I have been seeking for just ten minutes bus ride from our apartment.

The boys wanted me to keep my fine catch. There are many large spawning trout to produce the next generation after all, so the odd harvest is well appreciated. At first I was not so sure, because hauling this beast during the bus ride on the way home would not make me so popular. I was then convinced when Alan was kind enough to offer me a car ride back. The cameras came out to capture the moment. Ryan informed me that they only connect with a fish in this size several times each year. We estimated it to be between 8 and 10lb.

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This fish exhibited all the classic physical features found on a sea trout- The longer lower jaw, the extended jaw to the back of its eyes, the square tail and of course black spots on its gill plates and silvery body.

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While cleaning the fish, I opened up its stomach and found three partially digested sculpins in the four inch range, two sticklebacks, two shrimps and two sandworms that were still wiggling. Sea trout are such greedy predators, it’s no wonder that the hook is often swallowed when they are caught.

The big silver finally showed itself with only one more week of my stay left in Denmark. Persistence, or obsession, has once again been rewarded. Maybe there will be one more for me next week? I better not ask for more… ;)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: mmmroe on January 19, 2008, 04:19:18 PM
Nice fish rod....bet they arent like a 14lb steelie ripping around a run  ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 19, 2008, 04:40:31 PM
Actually I found the fight between these sea trout and steelhead to be rather similar. The fish today gave me a few brief frights when the runs didn't seem to slow down. They are after all brown trout, except much well fed in the ocean. The girth of these fish is also quite large as well as the caudal area, again because of the amount of feed. Check out this one (http://www.kystfluefiskeren.dk/album/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=Hav%F8rreder%2Fmonster.jpg). That's from feeding naturally. :o
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: BladeKid on January 20, 2008, 01:14:25 AM
Actually I found the fight between these sea trout and steelhead to be rather similar. The fish today gave me a few brief frights when the runs didn't seem to slow down. They are after all brown trout, except much well fed in the ocean. The girth of these fish is also quite large as well as the caudal area, again because of the amount of feed. Check out this one (http://www.kystfluefiskeren.dk/album/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=Hav%F8rreder%2Fmonster.jpg). That's from feeding naturally. :o

 :o ...just like those football jacks.  ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Johncke on January 20, 2008, 02:53:28 AM
(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p100/Johncke/JansHavrrede.jpg)

This is what a Big Sea Trout looks like when caught in the spring. Steelheads has nothing on Sea Trout when it comes to fight. If there's a difference it's nothing that I noticed. The only difference I can think of, is the amount of water to their disposal during the fight. The Steelhead is limited to the river. The Sea Trout has the whole ocean to run and they use it aggressively when hooked  :o

Johncke ;)
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: CALI 2 B.C. on January 20, 2008, 08:13:19 PM
congrats on the fish rodney
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: mmmroe on January 20, 2008, 09:48:33 PM
Actually I found the fight between these sea trout and steelhead to be rather similar. The fish today gave me a few brief frights when the runs didn't seem to slow down. They are after all brown trout, except much well fed in the ocean. The girth of these fish is also quite large as well as the caudal area, again because of the amount of feed. Check out this one (http://www.kystfluefiskeren.dk/album/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=Hav%F8rreder%2Fmonster.jpg). That's from feeding naturally. :o

LOL i was just jokin rod....thats a sweet looking fish.....I can just imagine a steel with a bunch of water to dive/run in...
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 21, 2008, 01:19:57 PM
LOL i was just jokin rod....thats a sweet looking fish.....I can just imagine a steel with a bunch of water to dive/run in...

Yeah, it would be quite interesting if we have a similar beach fishery for steelhead too. ;)

On a row! Fine eating!

Well, it took several weeks of learning but either the Baltic sea trout are feeling sorry for me or I am starting to get a hang of it. Today I took advantage of the unusually warm weather once again and spent two hours at the harbour. Ten minutes before I had to end my trip, I felt that tug once again! This was not a silver fish like the one I caught two days ago, but a coloured fish that is still recovering from the late fall spawning. It was a rather large fish. What’s more interesting is how extended the lower jaw is compared to the top jaw. The lower jaw hook also seems worn out or broken. Judging by its size, Stig believes this was the same fish that he caught last week. He also believes that the lower hook in fact broke off because the fish he caught had a lower jaw that is so hooked that it was touching the nostrils. My thanks to Magic for taking the following photographs for me.

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Last night we cooked up two pieces of the silver sea trout from Saturday. The taste was slightly different to pacific salmon, but it was very delicious. I seasoned the fillets with salt, pepper and lemon. They are baked at 200C with onion and butter for 20 minutes. These were served with pan fried potato and carrots.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Lew Chater on January 21, 2008, 02:04:36 PM
Great stories and pictures Rodney. Glad to see you get such success before you have to head back. Pretty nice to be able to experience such different fishing and different species and yet be able to apply many of the same methods we use here, with some minor adjustments. Great to have met so many great fisher friends to share their knowledge and experiences of their home turf. Just shows how satisfying good fishing with good friends can be anywhere in the world fishermen gather. That's the way it should be. Thanks again for sharing your adventures.  Hi to Nina.
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on January 22, 2008, 12:03:36 PM
Thanks Lew. I'm back next week so make sure you have the steelhead spots ready for me. ;D I went out briefly again today, to a new location, hoping to intercept an atlantic cod too. No such luck, the wind has shifted to cold Northerly fromSweden and it was absolutely freezing on the beach. We spotted a rise and I possibly had a tug. ::) I also managed to press the camera button with my frozen numb fingers and capture a shot of the sunset and a shot of the moon rising above the Swedish coast.

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Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Johncke on February 18, 2008, 10:59:25 AM
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Hej Rodney

Here are some of the pictures that I inadvertently "Lost" when transferring them. I was able to recover them from the Memory card. I'll send you the rest. Se you . . .

Ryan ;D
Title: Re: 2007/2008 winter Danish journal
Post by: Rodney on February 18, 2008, 12:05:26 PM
Thanks Ryan! I knew those photos would be found eventually somehow. ;D The flash definitely made your photos better. ;)