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Title: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 21, 2010, 09:34:27 PM
Im planning to catch some fluke(Summer Flounder) in Belcarra/White Rock this April to June. Anyways, what is a posession limit, does it mean the limit that you can hook? Like not take home, but hook and landing it. Or what does it mean? ???

PS. Do you think Paternoster (3Hook rig) would work well for Flukes?
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: Fish Assassin on March 21, 2010, 09:42:58 PM
A daily limit is the number of fish you can retain per day. In the case of salmon it's usually 4

A possession limit is the number of fish you can have in your possession. It is usually a 2 day limit. In the case of salmon it's 8
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: Rodney on March 21, 2010, 09:50:10 PM
Possession limits typically only apply to when you are travelling. A possession limit is usually two daily quota as FA has mentioned.

To make it less confusion, here is an example. If you are travelling, you catch your daily quota of fish on the first day, have them in the freezer at your hotel. On the second day, you catch your daily quota of fish again, also have them in the freezer of your hotel room. On the third day, you cannot keep anymore fish because you already have two daily quota in your possession back at the hotel. Basically at any given time, if you have two daily quotas of fish in your possession at your hotel, RV, camp, etc, you cannot keep anymore fish. If you end up eating some of the fish, then you can keep more fish on the third day. The rule is set up to stop people from keeping 200 salmon when they go on a 50 day fishing trip across BC.

Regarding what rig to use, make sure you check the regulations on how many hooks you can use on the line. Two is usually the most.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 21, 2010, 09:52:32 PM
Really? ??? Im looking at the site right now but havent seen anything about that yet. Anyways, thanks, so it the possesion limit doesnt really matter.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 21, 2010, 09:56:06 PM
Rodney, i tried to find if the hooks limit but couldnt find any, i'll keep trying, but can you try to find it for me?
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: Rodney on March 21, 2010, 09:57:30 PM
Really? ??? Im looking at the site right now but havent seen anything about that yet.

http://www.pac.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/fm-gp/rec/law-loi/restrictions-eng.htm

Point number 6.

so it the possesion limit doesnt really matter.

IF you are not travelling.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 21, 2010, 11:13:53 PM
OMG! Are you kidding me? I just took 1 hour to rig up a 3 hook paternoster rig -_- Not joking, full one hour straight with no breaks, my back really hurts... OMG... You've GOT TO BE joking me...
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: Rodney on March 21, 2010, 11:15:28 PM
Snip here, snip there, now you have three single hook rigs.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 21, 2010, 11:18:41 PM
But they're too short  :P W/E it's easy to rig a Carolina rig so i guess i have to use that :'(
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 23, 2010, 07:33:48 PM
Rodney, we're only allowed one rod like freshwater on the docks right? (Not on a boat) I couldnt see anything about that in the link you gave me. ???
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 23, 2010, 07:48:22 PM
Rodney, we're only allowed one rod like freshwater on the docks right? (Not on a boat) I couldnt see anything about that in the link you gave me. ???


I am just curious, are the regulations that hard to read for you? Not faulting you as for all I know you could be new to the country and have a hard time with our language. I am just asking as maybe this is something that really needs to be addressed.  I am actually really glad your asking as I have seen many immigrants fishing illegally. Maybe they just have a hard time understanding them just as you do.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 23, 2010, 07:54:28 PM
No i speak English very well and read and write very well too. But i just couldnt find it... The regulations i see are only the things above and the regulations specified for Areas but they had nothing about it ??? But your comment was KIND OF insulting but im guessing you werent doing it on purpose ::)
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: vancook on March 23, 2010, 10:25:10 PM

I am just curious, are the regulations that hard to read for you? Not faulting you as for all I know you could be new to the country and have a hard time with our language. I am just asking as maybe this is something that really needs to be addressed.  I am actually really glad your asking as I have seen many immigrants fishing illegally. Maybe they just have a hard time understanding them just as you do.
I'm pretty sure he's a pretty young kid. I recall his intro thread or whatever.
no offence if Im wrong ssd
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: azafai on March 24, 2010, 12:52:21 PM

I am just curious, are the regulations that hard to read for you? Not faulting you as for all I know you could be new to the country and have a hard time with our language. I am just asking as maybe this is something that really needs to be addressed.  I am actually really glad your asking as I have seen many immigrants fishing illegally. Maybe they just have a hard time understanding them just as you do.

in some aspects it is written in a too confusing and too bureaucratic texts.
I don't think there is anything wrong with asking clarifying questions or similar question if someone don't have the time to go through all of that.
With impatient towards that we discourage them from doing so. 



Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: marmot on March 24, 2010, 01:28:50 PM
The regulations can be a little frustrating to sort through at times, although I think comprehension skill might be a factor too?  You take something that is difficult to understand to begin with and compound it with the fact that for many people english is not their first language and you get a perfect storm of confusion :) I don't mean to belittle anyones english skills...in fact I'm blown away by people I know that have been here a few years and are reading, writing, and speaking to the level that they are.  It's amazing really.

I think you are correct in that there is absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions if you don't understand something, it is probably the very best thing somebody can do and it sure beats the alternative.

Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: skaha on March 24, 2010, 02:34:53 PM
--you're assuming its the reader not the writer?
--the regulations are continuously under review so if something is not clear.. send in a suggestion for better wording or at least point out what the confusing portion is.
--The suggestions should include format as often one has to check in more than one section of the regulations.
-- And yes I carry a copy with me at all times,  just in case someone asks or offers an opinion on what the regulation is.

--There have been some famous fishers charged with breaking the rules, in many cases do to their own expert opinion rather than ignorance.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: azafai on March 24, 2010, 04:11:37 PM

so, if it is the readers then what suggestion do you have for solving this problem?
shouldn't adding a summary or a conclusion section to it would solve some lengthy explained parts and some problems?
besides, if someone needs information about a particular part and doesn't have the time to go through all regulations to find his/her answer, in that case, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with posting a simple and short question like the one in this thread.
cheers.




Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 24, 2010, 04:31:24 PM
so, if it is the readers then what suggestion do you have for solving this problem?
shouldn't adding a summary or a conclusion section to it would solve some lengthy explained parts and some problems?
besides, if someone needs information about a particular part and doesn't have the time to go through all regulations to find his/her answer, in that case, in my opinion there is nothing wrong with posting a simple and short question like the one in this thread.
cheers.


Thanks. In fact you're right, i was doing my Socials project so i really had no time but to peak at the rules, but it was very complicated and wrong so i just asked if anybody knows on top of their head. But i guess i might have looked like im a bit lazy or something, but i guess there's my fault too.

Anyways, thanks for help.



Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: marmot on March 24, 2010, 05:07:12 PM
A few points (skaha style)

- if you have time to go fishing you have time to read the regulations.  You not having the time to go through it just means that you are expecting somebody else to go through it for you.  Is this anything other than laziness???
- there is nothing wrong with asking questions if you don't understand something.
- just based on what we know about people in general it is safe to assume that some people are going to have some basic comprehension issues.  That's reality, guys.
- the regs can be confusing regardless of how well you understand written english.

and azafai if it is the readers, it should be obvious who the onus is on.

The meat of what I'm saying here guys is don't blame the regulations if you don't understand something, just ask for clarification and get on with fishing :)

Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 24, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
A few points (skaha style)

- if you have time to go fishing you have time to read the regulations.  You not having the time to go through it just means that you are expecting somebody else to go through it for you.  Is this anything other than laziness???
- there is nothing wrong with asking questions if you don't understand something.
- just based on what we know about people in general it is safe to assume that some people are going to have some basic comprehension issues.  That's reality, guys.
- the regs can be confusing regardless of how well you understand written english.

and azafai if it is the readers, it should be obvious who the onus is on.

The meat of what I'm saying here guys is don't blame the regulations if you don't understand something, just ask for clarification and get on with fishing :)



Thats exactly right. If you dont ask for clarification and you break a regulation you deserve what you get. If someone gets a driving offense and he says to the police officer " The laws are confusing " do you think the police officer is going to care? Probably not. Same goes for fishing regulations.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 24, 2010, 06:30:54 PM
And that's what i did.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: azafai on March 24, 2010, 08:16:03 PM


exactly...lol
you did nothing wrong.

Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: bbronswyk2000 on March 25, 2010, 04:53:57 AM
And that's what i did.

Yes you did. I am not talking directly about you. I am simply pointing out the ignorance of others who are not like you. How many times have you been out and seen people fishing illegally? How many times have you spoken to these people and they say "no english"or "I didnt know" those are words of ignorance. They should have done exactly what you did. Maybe they are not on a forum but their are many other ways of finding out this information.
Title: Re: What's a possesion limit?
Post by: ssd0904 on March 25, 2010, 05:19:42 PM
Yes you did. I am not talking directly about you. I am simply pointing out the ignorance of others who are not like you. How many times have you been out and seen people fishing illegally? How many times have you spoken to these people and they say "no english"or "I didnt know" those are words of ignorance. They should have done exactly what you did. Maybe they are not on a forum but their are many other ways of finding out this information.

I agree very much. I went freshwater 2 times and saw 2 people illegally fishing already. They both had two rods, 5 hooks with 5 spinners. I mean i couldnt tell them anything, but yeah. And i see people illegally crab fishing /Fishing everytime i go crab fishing to saltwater piers. So yea they should, or DFO should be there at least 1 time a day at most crowded times, so they can probably catch at least 2 people doing illegal things arleady.