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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: fish fear me on October 02, 2015, 12:04:52 PM
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Hi was thinking of taking m son to the cap but was wondering what the most prolific fish is in there right now and how to best target it (with the current bait ban) also probably won't target chinook as are rods only 8lb and 10lb test. (going either Saturday or sunday so hope to get a some tips soon.) Thanks ;).
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coho. spoons and spinners
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Water is very low at the moment:
http://www.vankayak.org/capcam/
Not sure if fish can enter the system when the water is soooo low.
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thanks for the replies we can't really go anywhere else as we don't have much time an the cap is pretty close the only other options would be the fraser or one of the smaller creeks in north van (lynn creek, seymour river...)
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thanks for the replies we can't really go anywhere else as we don't have much time an the cap is pretty close the only other options would be the fraser or one of the smaller creeks in north van (lynn creek, seymour river...)
Rice Lake is pretty close to you and they just stocked it recently.
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I think the Seymour is closed. rice was stocked again yesterday or was supposed to be.
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Rice Lake. Seymour is closed and the Cap is not a family friendly place for a lot of reasons.
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If taking your son, then rice lake is the best place to go. The Seymour is closed. Lynn Creek only has a small population of small trout.
In rice Lake, fly fishing is generally very productive, stripping a leech pattern or chartreuse power bait or worms off the bottom or from a float.
GL and please post a report.
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I was at the Cap today just for kicks...I always like the experience, but fishing the low water is mostly a waste of time.
There are several factors that have to all come together simultaneously for a successful day, and other considerations to make that day enjoyable. I am still learning its nuances, but I know that if you go unprepared you will be disappointed. Also, the pools range from moderately difficult access to somewhat dangerous with slick sloping rocks and areas to wade...not even considering the cable pool.
I too want to bring my kid fishing, but not without all of the preparations first...not a place to go on a whim.
Sounds like you will be restricted to gear fishing, so another thing is the river is very snaggy and you will go through lots of lures...best to make a bunch up first from cheap A&N parts.
If you insist on going, the Keith road pool under the highway bridge would be the least objectionable option to bring a child...the goat trail is not too bad, and the river bank is flat. There is a pool with cohos and maybe a spring or two.
With your light rods Rice lake is your best bet for this weekend. You will do well with yellow powerbait fished off the bottom with a sliding weight.
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we will probably go to rice I didn't know it was stocked yesterday. Just out of curiosity how did you know it was stocked? the recent fish releases page on goofs bc hasn't yet been updated, I noticed it usually lags a day or two behind and knowing earlier would be useful. Thanks.
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Stocking updates are usually up within a day on one of GoFishBC's social media these days:
https://www.facebook.com/gofishbc
https://twitter.com/Go_Fish_BC
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thanks rod
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went to rice for about an hour and a half fishing wasn't great no one on the dock caught anything accept this one guy using a rig I've never seen before. it was a thin scented rubber worm maybe 3 inches long about a meter and a half bellow a very small slip float almost looked like a strike indicator from fly fishing, his english wasn't very good but he said it was a pro or professional float he got in the states. there where also some guys fishing on rock outcropping closish to the dock and they caught a few. (I think they where bottom fishing powerbait). Anyways we where float fishing deli shrimp with powerboat scent and casting small lures but just got some tentative nibbles on the shrimp.
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I did the circuit of urban lakes in the spring after stocking. Used an impressive selection of bait and lures...nothing was working even with some people hooking up multiple times beside me.
Even tried cured shrimp from a member tip and nothing...funny, even at Sasamat the dock minnows seem to be repelled to the cured ones, and would ball around the plain ones?
Spent 3 solid days at Rice Lake with nothing to show...several other lakes also.
Then went to Como and met a German fellow who has fished and observed the stocked lakes for decades. He told me what to do, and ten minutes later caught one and then another.
I went to Lafarge with this method and caught many more.
Stocked trout eat pellets, if you can bait them without spooking them this is the most effective method. Sure, a fly will work...but the only reason it seems more effective is that the bite commitment is more guaranteed because of its small size. Most of the time with bait, the fisher will scare the fish from premature hook setting when the fish is just tasting the bait.
The trout mouth the bait several times first before committing to the bite.
Use a small hook with a chickpea sized yellow power bait ball. Perfectly cover the entire hook so that only the slightest bit of the point protrudes out of the marble shaped bait. Dip the baited hook in the water for 10 seconds or so, then pull out of the water and air dry for 30 seconds or so. This melts and hardens the bait on the hook so when you cast it stays on. Also, the trout will suck and spit the bait several times before committing...the hook placement is critical to not scare the fish, yet hook up when he bites
Use a short leader 20-24 inches with 4 or 6 lb test...and longer and it doesn't work as well.
Small sliding weight to a bead and swivel...just enough to cast out.
Prop up rod on a twig with slight tension and wait.
Don't touch it until rod tip bends consistently...little taps leave it alone.
Don't fish the dock...go in the forest off the trail and find a spot in the shade.
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i was at rice yesterday and today (29/15) my bud (18/18) .
silver , I disagree with you about few things :
1) 85% of the time trout bites before I even finish tightening my line so I don't think they scared/spooked , I think they very curious .
2) where is no need to hide a hook , if I use dough (I grab some of it and roll a ball and keep rolling it for a minute or so , and it last me for quite a bit , but you have to do it with dry fingers) I always leave end of hook , if you use small hooks and cover it all - 95% if will swallow it (we had to keep 3 yesterday and 2 today because of them swallow)
3)trout not carp or sturgeon :) they can just take it (from my experience) . and I always hold my rod , especially after casting and slowly tightening line , if no action right away I leave it a bit bent and carefully grab it even on a small taps because if you will wait for your rod to bend hard - this means it already swallowed it :( or you can have a situation when you have fish on , and it ran into a snag .. (happened yesterday to my bud , today to me ...)
4) my leader is at least 3-4 feet if I cast into a "hole"
The method you described is to "catch and keep" , I prefer to play with setting a hook on a small taps , this way fish is almost always ok after releasing it .
I agree with you on "don't fish the dock" part :)
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I agree with you on "don't fish the dock" part :)
Unless you are stripping a small olive bugger on a sinking line then it's dynamite! :)
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Unless you are stripping a small olive bugger on a sinking line then it's dynamite! :)
read his post :) if he had no luck on rice , he wasn`t flyfishing :D
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Hyrena,
Sounds like you are an extremely proficient angler, and have had extraordinary success at Rice.
I wonder if the first day or two of a fresh stocking provides for this kind of action? I'm not sure as i did not get to the various lakes as quickly this last Spring.
To clarify, I also suggested baiting the hook with the business end sticking out...just in other words perhaps.
The fish I caught fortunately did not swallow any hooks with the method I was taught. However, I did retain all of the landed ones anyway...as some managed to escape.
I suppose whatever works is the right way.
Not really interested anymore in catching lake trout as they all taste like dirt, and the fun factor is gone after catching a handful.
Leaving it for the kids now...
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I wonder if Rice lake needs it's own thread?
This started out about the Cap...
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Hey back from the cap was fishing under the highway bridge. Was twitching for coho in a pool no success. Moved over to the other side and float fished orange wool with some scent. Landed a nice chinook deffintley some fish but most are stale
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Hey back from the cap was fishing under the highway bridge. Was twitching for coho in a pool no success. Moved over to the other side and float fished orange wool with some scent. Landed a nice chinook deffintley some fish but most are stale
In case you were not aware, scents count as bait and there is currently a bait ban on the Capilano.
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What are your preferred jig colors for twitching? Does anyone use those Bent Rod ones? Are they worth the money/minimum $40 order?
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Though they're not hard to tie.
(That's an additional expense for some)
Single jigs are available at most tackle shops and there are some knock offs out there as well.
(Though one should pay attention to hook quality)
Check out Bent Rod's site he has videos on how to use them.
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For twitching I still prefer the simple curly tail rubber grub (Mr. Twister etc.)
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In case you were not aware, scents count as bait and there is currently a bait ban on the Capilano.
Shoot. had that in the back of my head but scents were not. sorry
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What are your preferred jig colors for twitching? Does anyone use those Bent Rod ones? Are they worth the money/minimum $40 order?
Try army and navy the have some bent rod jigs and for coho i use pink,black,blue,red have had most success with black and red
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What are your preferred jig colors for twitching? Does anyone use those Bent Rod ones? Are they worth the money/minimum $40 order?
where is a guy in abby making them , you can get them about 2$ a piece , check on craigslist "coho jigs"
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What are your preferred jig colors for twitching? Does anyone use those Bent Rod ones? Are they worth the money/minimum $40 order?
Bent Rod Jigs are probably your best bet. Great sickle hooks and Rod Toth lives in Chilliwack so know local rivers... or you can make your own, pretty easy.
Just get a $20 vice, but don't cheap out on the bobbin (thing that holds the thread). I took a class at SeaRun with Andrew.. worth it. Though in the end, with materials and the cost of quality hooks it's pretty close in price to store bought.
I like pink/white, pink/chartreuse, purple/hot pink (cerise).
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Fishing the mouth of the Cap is fun w/ kids. You'll need a Tidal license and it's easiest to fish during a low tide.
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If you tie your own, get a rite bobbin, use utc thread (for fly tying {really jig tying is like fly tying just with a lead head on it} I avoid uni thread like the plague, horrible breaking strength)
As for marabou, get strung marabou from wapsi. Never had a problem with it.
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If you tie your own, get a rite bobbin, use utc thread (for fly tying {really jig tying is like fly tying just with a lead head on it} I avoid uni thread like the plague, horrible breaking strength)
As for marabou, get strung marabou from wapsi. Never had a problem with it.
Nonsense. UNI thread works great.
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http://vancouver.craigslist.ca/rds/spo/5220608821.html
cheaper than stores ;) he`s a nice guy too , I got quite a few jigs from him and sturgeon weights ...
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The latest river report says that the Capilano season is ending...
Are the Chinook done...no fresh ones to come?
There has only been one or two brief rises in river level since April...
Are they still at the mouth?
What weeks do the Chinook run in the Capilano normally?
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after this push of rain most of them moved up that day visited the highway bridge and landed a nice spring defintley worth a try if not springs then tons of cohos. gonna fish there on Saturday. also search ebi fisher on youtube has tons of vids at the cap
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In case you were not aware, scents count as bait and there is currently a bait ban on the Capilano.
I fished just above the highway bridge last week and saw that ebi fisher guy there. I fished beside him and after he was tired of float fishing with no success he took off the float, threw on a large jig and proceeded to start ripping through the water and snag into the side of a large spring which got away. Bet that's not something you'll see on his youtube channel
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In the video with the large spring, it appears to be swimming downstream hooked in the belly in front of the anal fin.
Also, the other videos appear edited to remove hook sets.
The fly fishing looked legit.
Just saying...only my observations.
This is why I am discouraged on Cap fishing. It's been a virtually non existent season so far. and I am wondering when the Chinook run typically ends, and when the Coho run typically ends?
I have only seen 1 or two fresh fish in the ladder, and only a couple of moldy springs so far. It was only after the 1 rain event around Sept 15 that fresh fish could be seen porposing the rapids and splashing around...I even saw a trophy steelhead in fall color that day. In seasons past I would see the windows filled with bright fish during the run...It was only when the entire run was nearing its course that they would darken.
The fish are just lock jawed unless they are newcomers. And I am not interested in snagging fish, or
putting in too much wasted time.
Even last weeks rain, it only brought the river up to just over a foot. I suppose this was enough to fish the highway bridge but I want to fish anywhere elsewhere in the mid river and that has not been possible. Even the one significant river rise was a brief and insignificant event.
How much more time is left In the run? It is my understanding that if a river run is delayed due to low water in a river, then the salmon will hold at the mouth until they can safely travel upstream. They should stay fresh until such time...correct?
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Last year was October 4-6 when finishing was really great and had the biggest push of fish that I've seen
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Their will be fish in there but timing and luck will play a part.
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hopefully have a chance to fish this weekend might either float yarn or jig for cohos. Theres one specific pool under the highway bridge which fish love to stack up in and are waiting for the snaggers. when the pinks were running I was float fishing with wool but after no success i asked some people nearby what they were "catching" on and he showed me snagged a pink for me with a jig. bloody snaggers spook the fish
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The river was pretty low and lonely yesterday. I only fished for a couple of hours in the morning. There were some rolling stale fish which might have been springs. I saw 1 silver colored fish that jumped. When I got back to the parking lot just before lunch time, my car was the only one there. I think with the water level so low, your odds are not good. Vedder and Stave and even Squamish will be better options.
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Where did you fish?
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Where did you fish?
Your favorite fishing spot ;D
I'm pretty sure I met you on the river last year. I was the guy the lost that 20lb spring to the rapids, after fighting it for 30 minutes using 8lb mono. You landed a nice coho using one of your spinners in that murky water.
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Yes, I remember.
I think there may be 1 or 2 days to still be had there. If the river rises and there is a high tide I believe that spot will produce...the fish hold in that deep pool.
Even when the river is low like this, I can cast a 3/8 oz lure into that hole and it takes 12 seconds to hit bottom...with no current.
It was already November then so there is still hope.
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Gonna hit the highway bridge pool any sujestions on what to use
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Gonna hit the highway bridge pool any sujestions on what to use
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Cocijo
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Thanks for no help u dick .
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Looks like the dam is releasing water unexpectedly.
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Could be an good day for Capilano standards.
Salmon Layer, I'll see you at the river...you can tell me how you feel then.
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Just got back- lost a few(the story of my life this year :D) saw a few bonked.Red.