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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: armytruck on May 31, 2022, 09:53:33 PM

Title: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on May 31, 2022, 09:53:33 PM
Caught a beautiful trout a week ago , 22” . Kamloops area . Seems I can’t identify what strain of trout this was . It’s back was all gold and had very few light spots above the lateral line and pure white and chrome below . I looked up strains but doesn’t seem to compare with Blackwater, Gerard, Fraser Valley, Pannask . And whatever that other one like Tzan something. Has anyone else landed such a creature.
Any thoughts ?
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: clarki on May 31, 2022, 11:20:18 PM
What strains are stocked in the lake you were fishing?
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: RalphH on June 01, 2022, 07:47:45 AM
Description: Horsefly strain rainbows exhibit a distinctive golden tone. Typically, they are densely spotted above the lateral line. Where the fishing pressure is low, mature specimens can attain relatively big sizes. In Quesnel Lake, they can attain weights of more than nine kilograms (20 pounds). 

(https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.twOqzYLhRr4t49FzSiwqpQAAAA&w=180&h=170&c=8&rs=1&qlt=90&o=6&dpr=1.25&pid=3.1&rm=2)

The Pennask strain usually has very little spoting spots above the lateral line.

Description: The Blackwater strain is often more densely spotted from head to tail than the Pennask strain. They typically have a high concentration of spots above the lateral line, a body-spotting pattern that’s common in coastal rainbow trout.

(https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.MlCuQL7NmpwlR8Tg8Rrv5gAAAA?w=238&h=180&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=1.25&pid=1.7)

in both photos there is a goldish tinge above the lateral line. How colors look will depend on light conditions, water conditions (ie tannin vs clear vs algae stain, a deep lake vs shallow, the color of the bottom yada)

remember all these strains are rainbow trout. Trout appearance will also vary among individuals
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on June 01, 2022, 09:57:44 AM
(https://imgur.com/y0ETuu8)
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on June 01, 2022, 10:45:02 AM
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Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on June 01, 2022, 11:33:47 AM
Tried to post a pic but seem to be running into difficulties
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on June 01, 2022, 12:11:49 PM
What strains are stocked in the lake you were fishing?
Roche Lake .
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: RalphH on June 01, 2022, 12:49:18 PM
Gofishbc.com says all the stocking into Roche from 2018 to 2022 are Pennasks
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on June 01, 2022, 01:32:22 PM
Gofishbc.com says all the stocking into Roche from 2018 to 2022 are Pennasks
Yes ,, this one could have been Pannask . Golden girl Pannask .
Most of the 20 -30 we caught were Blackwater as well as Fraser Valley rainbow . Guess this one was special  :).
Wish I could figure out a way to post the snap shot.
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: RalphH on June 01, 2022, 04:32:48 PM
the picture has to be posted on another website such as a photo service such as imgur.com,  facebook, photobucket etc

you need the html web address for your photo. A simple way to get it is to right-click on the photo with your mouse  then select copy image link from the drop down menu

1 click on reply or start new message

2 paste the web address ie: https://i.imgur.com/DHsaOkC.jpg
into the post box:


- now you can highlight the address by holding down the left mouse button, moving the mouse to high light the address then release the left button

- then click the insert image button (https://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/Themes/core/images/bbc/img.gif)just below the (https://www.fishingwithrod.com/yabbse/Themes/core/images/bbc/bold.gif) in the upper left

3 post your photo

(https://i.imgur.com/DHsaOkC.jpg)

(https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10159431157714777&set=pcb.10159431162739777)


Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: armytruck on June 01, 2022, 09:05:18 PM
(https://scontent.fyvr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/285833366_10219762868852734_7116594071688581935_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=g7B44FkrKDsAX9njcJi&_nc_ht=scontent.fyvr2-1.fna&oh=00_AT8a8pLY7IQFTfOXe2LwO-RzFvo0GbyGfEna_TvV0XxsAw&oe=629C3051)
OK , THIS IS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT  ::)
22" slipped back into the depths
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: clarki on June 01, 2022, 09:51:57 PM
Cool looking fish!
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: Darko on June 02, 2022, 08:37:11 AM
Cool looking fish!
very very nice rainbow indeed!
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: RalphH on June 02, 2022, 08:58:57 AM
I think that is a Pennask.

FWIW all the native Southern interior rainbows (Kamloops & Gerrards)  are considered to be Columbia River Redband Rainbow trout, part of the Redband rainbow trout sub-species.

The Rainbow trout "strains" described on Gofishbc are not a taxonomical classification but just a description of where the particular eggs are collected in the wild to be raised in a hatchery. Most anglers seem to agree there are behavioural differences between the 3 or 4 strains.
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: ern on June 02, 2022, 10:15:39 PM
Nice. On a side note, I saw these gold coloured rainbow trout for sale at Safeway in Poco a month or so ago.

(https://i.imgur.com/0i9IiDS.jpg)

I scratched around a bit and they look to be 'golden rainbow' or 'palomino' trouts. Apparently they're a stocked and managed colour variant rainbow with origins in the New England area of the States.
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: VAGAbond on June 05, 2022, 01:04:19 PM
Trout are chameleon like in that they adjust their colour to match their surroundings.  I had this clearly illustrated some years back while fishing an alpine lake north of Whistler that had been stocked once years earlier, so only one strain of fish was present.  I located on the edge of deep water.  Casting out into the deep water I caught silver fish with blue backs and barely visible spots.  Casting the other direction into the shallow water yielded highly coloured fish.  We had always assumed that these represented fish in different stages of their life and that the silver fish were in better condition and more suitable for table fair.  On this day I was using an old rowboat with several inches of water sloshing around in the bottom.  I hooked one of the silvery fish which flipped off the hook and dropped into the water in the boat and promptly hid under the floorboards where I couldn’t easily retrieve it.  I continued fishing for a couple of hours and finally decided it was time to retrieve the fish from the boat and release it.  I was surprised to find that it had completely changed colour into one of the highly coloured ‘shallow water’ fish.

I wonder to what extent the highly coloured state is influenced by the strain of trouts typical colour characteristics and how much by the specific environment.   Certainly the spots don’t change but the other colours?
Title: Re: Trout ID
Post by: Darko on June 06, 2022, 12:04:59 PM
Trout are chameleon like in that they adjust their colour to match their surroundings.  I had this clearly illustrated some years back while fishing an alpine lake north of Whistler that had been stocked once years earlier, so only one strain of fish was present.  I located on the edge of deep water.  Casting out into the deep water I caught silver fish with blue backs and barely visible spots.  Casting the other direction into the shallow water yielded highly coloured fish.  We had always assumed that these represented fish in different stages of their life and that the silver fish were in better condition and more suitable for table fair.  On this day I was using an old rowboat with several inches of water sloshing around in the bottom.  I hooked one of the silvery fish which flipped off the hook and dropped into the water in the boat and promptly hid under the floorboards where I couldn’t easily retrieve it.  I continued fishing for a couple of hours and finally decided it was time to retrieve the fish from the boat and release it.  I was surprised to find that it had completely changed colour into one of the highly coloured ‘shallow water’ fish.

I wonder to what extent the highly coloured state is influenced by the strain of trouts typical colour characteristics and how much by the specific environment.   Certainly the spots don’t change but the other colours?

thanks for sharing Vaga