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Fishing in British Columbia => General Discussion => Topic started by: Xgolfman on September 20, 2006, 02:40:56 PM

Title: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Xgolfman on September 20, 2006, 02:40:56 PM
Just something I've been wondering...I know when I'm trout fishing I carry the net on the back or boat..And I know you do tend to look like a serious beek when you walk around with the big aluminum ones..but honestly...If your concerned at all for the fish, why aren't you using a net?

I'm the first one to admit I don't like the idea of humping one around but I've got a wooden one that isn't too bad and beek or not I'm going to make the effort to bring it everytime...I've seen too many fish racked up on the beaches and It would make it a whole lot easier to identify the fish If it is wild...I also believe your catch ratio would go up as well...

I know I don't have a lot of room to talk when I took the pic. of the little guy out of the water so I could identify it..that was my mistake, I'm still learning and tend to still do some stupid things..but the net thing doesn't make any sense to me on not using one...

Last year at lickman I walked down to watch the gong show...guys on both sides flailing away for salmon...guy on the dry side was into one and I saw there was no way he would be able to land it with the current and rocks on his side...guy further down was painfully new but had a giant aluminum net..I borrowed it from him and went down and got the guys fish for him...I would like to say it was a wild and I saved it...but it wasn't and got bonked...but at least it didn't get bashed on the rocks and suffer from that...guess that's kind of an oxymoron..saving a fish for death..hmmm OK, maybe that's not a good analogy..... :-\ but it could have been a wild one and that would have saved it....

Not any kind of soapbox here, just wondering if it's a question of looking cool or if there is some reason for not carrying one???
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Xgolfman on September 20, 2006, 02:44:27 PM
Oh and another reason to carry one is when your "been fishing for 30 year" center pin tangled buddy who doesn't like to touch them when their in the water is "supposed" to be helping you land one...by knocking most of um back in the water....yeah, big help there C.P.G.
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: TrophyHunter on September 20, 2006, 03:05:45 PM
I use a Gaff they are easier to carry than the nets !!! ;D
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 20, 2006, 03:18:10 PM
I don't carry a net while river fishing. I find it much easier to land a fish by beaching it. If I wish to release a fish I just wade out and release it while keeping it in the water. It's a pain to be carrying a net around while walking up and down the river. It also increase my odds of losing the net.
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: BIG T on September 20, 2006, 03:26:00 PM
I don't carry a net while river fishing. I find it much easier to land a fish by beaching it. If I wish to release a fish I just wade out and release it while keeping it in the water. It's a pain to be carrying a net around while walking up and down the river. It also increase my odds of losing the net.
Well said FIsh Assassin,i think only meat hunter carry big net ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Fish Assassin on September 20, 2006, 03:29:53 PM
If you do use a net, at least get one big enough for the fish you're trying to catch. All too often I see people using trout nets to land big chinooks.  ???
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: chris gadsden on September 20, 2006, 04:00:34 PM
In some places a net certainly comes in handy and I have used them in the past oin a couple of spots. I believe if it is in the best interest of the fish go for it, if I look like a beek carrying one it is offset by wearing my Leaf hat anyway. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: TrophyHunter on September 20, 2006, 04:25:18 PM
I don't carry a net while river fishing. I find it much easier to land a fish by beaching it. If I wish to release a fish I just wade out and release it while keeping it in the water. It's a pain to be carrying a net around while walking up and down the river. It also increase my odds of losing the net.
Well said FIsh Assassin,i think only meat hunter carry big net ;D ;D ;D

Not true !!!
I have never seen FishFreak with a net :)
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Nicole on September 20, 2006, 04:39:13 PM
If you're going to use a net, made sure you get one of those catch and release nets, as the regular ones are quite bad for the removal of fish slime. Most people who use nets are doing so to make sure the fish gets in the freezer :)

The new catch and release nets are more expensive, but worth it if you're trying to keep the slime on the fish.

Here is a photo:  (http://www.dnr.state.md.us/fisheries/art2004/net.jpg)

It's better to let the fish bounce around in a few inches of water while you remove the hook for release than to use a net in my opinion.

And yes, it's well known that guys with nets, large spinning rods, and big tackle boxes are Beeks, so be prepared... That's just the way it is here, get used to it :)

Cheers,
Nicole
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: TrophyHunter on September 20, 2006, 04:50:42 PM
Nicole you forgot the yellow raincoats :)
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Sterling C on September 20, 2006, 05:35:37 PM
Thats funny golfman b/c my rant is exactly the opposite. I can't stand seeing people struggling to with thrashing fish in non catch and release nets. I would definitly rather see people tailing their fish. Mind you I'm the type of person who will wade into the water to tail a fish  order to make sure that it stays submerged.
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: chris gadsden on September 20, 2006, 06:22:14 PM

It's better to let the fish bounce around in a few inches of water while you remove the hook for release than to use a net in my opinion.

And yes, it's well known that guys with nets, large spinning rods, and big tackle boxes are Beeks, so be prepared... That's just the way it is here, get used to it :)

Cheers,
Nicole

Nicole, are you calling me a river mechanic and a beek in the same sentence? I better leave my net at home then. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Spudcote on September 20, 2006, 07:32:24 PM
Fish with a buddy and tail the fish, even less touching the fish than using a net.
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: fishfinder on September 20, 2006, 07:59:17 PM
I agree with Biff. No need for a net (unless you’re fishing off the high cliffs at the Cap). Just play the fish until it’s in a foot of water and take a good look to see if it’s a hatch or a wild. It’s simple. If it’s a hatch then beach it. If it’s wild then go in the water and give it a belly rub (they stay still while you that) and gently take the hook out and let it go. Having a net around will only hamper your fish landing skill. And like Nicole said you’ll just look like a desperate Beek walking around with one.
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Spudcote on September 20, 2006, 08:03:07 PM
And like Nicole said you’ll just look like a desperate Beek walking around with one.

Yes, because fishing is all about looking good...that's why they invented waders... ::) :P
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Xgolfman on September 20, 2006, 11:28:41 PM
:D allright you ba$tards...So it's a look thing huh?....If that was true us trout guys wouldn't be so careful with them...but I'll grant you the tail it in the water is true too....My net is a catch and release one...no knots etc. It's the law in Washington...Mine is a moby, smaller version of the biffcan one...I have a thing that attach's to my wader belt and is a made out of knotless net material for tailing a fish. I've got no problem doing that..I just can't believe you can tell me that using a net causes more stress then not...Using one improperly yeah..but I can scoop a fish, inspect it and release it in the water a lot faster then guys I've seen on the beach running one up and down the shore looking to see if it's clipped or not....Guess I'm more used to it fly fishing on my own...

Rick, my buddy Carry's a gaff..commerical one...that C.P.G. has cost me more fish then I've caught.. :'( ....I gotta admit..I have a magnetic quick release on the back of my fly vest for it, so it's not a big deal...will be useless on springs...coho's and smaller jacks only...but they are the ones that tend to go into hyper drive so that's why I'm gonna still carry it....If you guys see me...don't laugh...might need to save a fish for you!!! ;)
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: Derek Mcl on September 21, 2006, 10:17:49 AM
I am of the view that using an appropriate sized net ensures that fish that you want to keep are more likely to end up in the cooler and fish that you want to release are released most quickly.  I have had fish swim circles around me when I've forgotten my net that I otherwise would have had in the net and gone long before finally getting my paws on the tail.  Also, I find most fish to be slippery suckers.  Many tails have squirted between my bare fingers regardless of the tightness of my grip.
Title: Re: Mini Rant...Why no nets when fishing the Vedder
Post by: 2:40 on September 21, 2006, 01:31:27 PM
Did anyone mention getting into the water with the fish and tailing it there instead of doing the backwards shuffle and dragging it up on the rocks or sticking it in a standard net and letting it thrash all its scales and slime off?  ;D

Unless fishing off a cliff as mentioned, you dont need a net. I never use a net and prefer to slide the fish into the shallows just until it flops over on its side and there I grab em, do a ID or what ever. Ask Rodney about this...think he watched me do it to a couple steelhead couple winters ago.  ;) ;) ;) Works well!! It's really easy, the fish dont get all banged up and I lose more fish during the first 30 seconds of hooking the fish than I do trying to beach it.

While exciting, I think one of the biggest problems people have when trying to beach a fish is getting too excited. Excited is good as you having a good time, but dont let that cause you to do the classic backwards shuffle that ends on the poor fish doing the rock and sand dance. On the other hand, dont get too eager and try to catch the fish in 2 feet of water either. It's just a fish, the fish deserves the respect of being treated well (even if slated for the table) and there are lots of methods to beach a fish with minimal harm or fuss.

Like CG, I dont need a net/tackle box to look like a beak. My Leaf hat, camo jacket/vest and duct taped waders do a magnificent job.  ;D